Your 'Desert Island' Yeast?

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  1. skivtjerry

    skivtjerry Pooh-Bah (1,865) Mar 10, 2006 Vermont
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    I'd go with the California Lager strain (WY2112). Very versatile and reasonably neutral, could make passable ale and lager styles (though admittedly the Chico yeast can do this too). The only drawback is that bottle conditioning takes forever with this yeast. I'd hope for plenty of kegs on my desert isle.
     
  2. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,421) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    Cali is the easy choice because it's arguably the most versatile yeast on the planet. There's no question I'd miss a nice Belgian or Hefe from time to time, but I'd miss the other 90% of the styles I enjoy more. If I was limited to one and only one yeast forever, that would have to be it. I'd rather have a neutral yeast that I can coax some flavor out of than a flavorful yeast that can't be made to shut up! :wink:
     
  3. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Why would chico be an easy choice and some other choice be hard? I mean, is there somehow some sort of hard-won honor in choosing a different yeast?
     
  4. Beerontwowheels

    Beerontwowheels Initiate (0) Nov 22, 2009 Maryland

    More people chose cali ale. It's a well known yeast that is very versatile. That's all I was alluding too.
     
  5. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    I've used chico for apa's, ipa's, wheat beers, cleanup on saisons that don't attenuate enough, stouts, imperial stouts. Although I love saisons and funky wild beers I would be a fool to give up all those beers for wlp670. There were a couple of british yeasts that came to mind, but they aren't as reliable as chico. Chico isn't the easy choice, its the most well rounded choice for me. Hell, I could probably use chico for bastardized lagers as well.
     
  6. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    If I had to play favorites I'd pick Irish 1084. I'd rather live off amber and black beer.
     
  7. premierpro

    premierpro Savant (1,060) Mar 21, 2009 Michigan

    Before I started keging I bottled with this yeast all the time. I never noticed any difference between this and other yeast. The only time my beers needed longer is when I bottle high gravity beer.
     
  8. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I have only used Wyeast 2112 for making California Common beers. My homebrewing process for making California Common beers was patterned after the Anchor Steam brewing process:

    · Primary ferment at 60°F (typically for a week duration)
    · Cool condition at 50°F for three weeks in a secondary

    I would then bottle the beer after the above four week duration. The beers would be carbonated after two weeks of bottle conditioning and the beer were good to drink. What I have consistently noticed with my California Common beers is that they would noticeably improve with time in the bottle. My California Common beers at 6-7 months of age were significantly ‘better’ than they were after two weeks in the bottle.

    I have no explanation for why this beer significantly improves with extended time in the bottle. Only one other batch of beer that I brew exhibits this same level of improvement with time in the bottle and that is my Oatmeal Stout. All of the other batches I make will demonstrate some improvement with time in the bottle with a few more weeks of aging but they don’t continuously improve over many months like the California Common & Oatmeal Stout.

    Cheers!
     
  9. premierpro

    premierpro Savant (1,060) Mar 21, 2009 Michigan

    I took skivtjerry's statement as his beer did not carbinate as there would be little difference between conditioning in bottles or kegs. I also like my CC's after 4 months. Last year I made a Munish dunkel That I drank too early. I found 4 bottles in the back of my fridge 6 months later and was amazed how much better it was. I have 2 kegs that I will not touch till the 6 month mark. I also have 10 gallons of CC to keg. Take care.
     
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  10. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Am. Ales = Chico
    British = 002/1968 or 1469
    Lagers = 833 or 830 for pilseners. 940 is good, but too clean for some beers.
    Belgians = 550 as it is very versatile.
     
  11. reverseapachemaster

    reverseapachemaster Zealot (722) Sep 21, 2012 Texas

    3711 as long as I have temp control. Can go low enough to make a clean beer but high enough to get a lot of character for a saison.

    I would also start spontaneous fermentations to get some sour beers as well.
     
  12. skivtjerry

    skivtjerry Pooh-Bah (1,865) Mar 10, 2006 Vermont
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    Yes, 2112 is slow to bottle condition for me, 3-4 weeks vs. <2 for Chico, etc. They eventually get there and are just fine; it just takes a little longer.
     
  13. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Looking back over from the 2011 calendar year to present, I brewed beers using the following yeasts:
    US-05 (4x), Wy 3522, Wy 1469, Wy 3763, WLP 013, WY 2112/1338 Blend, WLP 007,Wy 1450, WLP 670,
    Wy 3787, Wy 3724, Wy 1272, Wy 2035, WLP 810, Wy 5335, Saflager W-34/70, WLP 036, Wy 2565, Wy 1968, Nottingham, T-58, WLP 400, WLP 001, WLP 380, WLP 570. I knew I was making a conscious effort to try more yeasts, but I didn't realize how many different once I used.

    The only yeast I used more than once was US-05, so I guess it wins the desert island scenario, but the scenario would really suck. Sort of makes sense that you would want a dry yeast, since they are designed to survive long term storage.
     
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  14. mylar

    mylar Initiate (0) Dec 13, 2011 Pennsylvania

    Agreed, but I prefer it in its dry version of us-05.
     
  15. rocdoc1

    rocdoc1 Maven (1,265) Jan 13, 2006 New Mexico
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    Nottingham dry yeast. I can ferment it pretty cold(57F internal temp) to get an almost lager or I can ferment it warm to get a tasty estery British ale. I used Cal yeast a couple of times until I realized it's versatility is because of its blandness.
     
  16. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    “I can ferment it warm to get a tasty estery British ale.” What temperature do you ferment to obtain esters? What is the level of esters that you obtain? Do you employ any other strategies to optimize the formation of esters (e.g., under-pitch, under-oxygenate, etc.)?

    Cheers!
     
  17. rocdoc1

    rocdoc1 Maven (1,265) Jan 13, 2006 New Mexico
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    65-67 internal temp gives me the esters I like in a British style pale ale or brown ale. That's my only technique that I deliberately use. sometimes I brew something and ask"That tastes better than last time, what did I do different?"
     
  18. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

    Wyeast 1028/White Labs WLP013. More versatile for me than Chico. With a good English ale yeast I can produce great examples of both American and English style beers, with Chico I cannot produce passable English styles, only American.
     
  19. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Welcome back?
     
  20. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

    I still stop in occasionally, I just no longer have time to post like I used to.
     
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