Saison Deliciousness

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  1. TheRealDBCooper

    TheRealDBCooper Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2010 Svalbard & Jan Mayen Islands


    I've drank a a lot of this beer (close to the end of my case) and "sour" is not a word I would use to describe it....
     
  2. Premo88

    Premo88 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,486) Jun 6, 2010 Texas
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    That's quite a story. Tell it again.

    :slight_smile:

    It makes me pucker up like lemonade. If that's not "sour," you tell me what it is and I'll call it your word.
     
  3. sketchpunx

    sketchpunx Initiate (0) Sep 4, 2008 New York

    IMHO saisons varie alot from one another. Also american breweries don't typically make the best ones.
    Solid american versions I've tried:
    Hennepin
    Saison Diego (green flash)

    Good Belgian ones worth seeking out:
    Anything from DuPont (esp avec bon Voux)
    Fantome

    I've also heard that Saison Rue from bruery is fantastic, but have yet to try it.
     
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  4. devlishdamsel

    devlishdamsel Initiate (0) Aug 1, 2009 Washington

    Your kidding right?
     
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  5. AndrewM661

    AndrewM661 Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2012 California

    I know I would love to see more saisons and triples....
     
  6. devlishdamsel

    devlishdamsel Initiate (0) Aug 1, 2009 Washington

    Or perhaps the shape of your tongue makes it so you don't find yourself gagging on the bitterness you are imbibing. most of the people I know of who can't stand extremely bitter pungent flavors are supertasters. Sometimes the bitterness is so intense that you literally gag in the back of your throat ( this used to happen to me). I am insanely stubborn and while with some beers this still occurs I carry on. Also the book I am reading goes on to mention that certain aroma's can actually counteract perceived bitterness, whereas other aroma's intensify them. Apparently hops which are heavier in polyphenols that are of floral nature as opposed to a spicy nature can make beer seem less bitter.
    But anyhow assuming saisons are for women is insanely short sighted. They are cultural and Belgian in nature. Which has absolutely nothing to do with gender.
     
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  7. VladTepes

    VladTepes Initiate (0) Oct 18, 2012 Finland

    Americans can't USUALLY brew good Saisons. Belgians just do it better. Of course there is few exceptions...
     
  8. VladTepes

    VladTepes Initiate (0) Oct 18, 2012 Finland

    Saison de Lente are better!
     
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  9. VladTepes

    VladTepes Initiate (0) Oct 18, 2012 Finland

    Btw is that brett beer?
     
  10. Herky21

    Herky21 Initiate (0) Aug 7, 2011 Iowa

    To make a good saison you have to spike temps. Most breweries can only chill them down. It's a technological barrier. Of course, I am sure there are breweries that manage to let the ferm temp do it on its own, but I've seen schedules that go upwards of 90f and most brewhouses are cold, not warm.
     
  11. Sam21

    Sam21 Initiate (0) Dec 14, 2009 Connecticut

    Absolutely. Jack D'or does it very well - a very tasteful and unique hoppy saison.
     
  12. lcplvr

    lcplvr Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2011 Tennessee

    Just last week I had my first saison (two in fact) at The Wicked Weed Brewery in Asheville, North Carolina. One was called "Passion Fruit Saison" and the other was "Dry Hopped Saison." I didn't know anything about saison at the time but I was plesantly surprised by the taste of both of the ones I tried. I don't think they tasted like any kind of beer I have ever had before, but I will definately be back soon to try these two again and some of the others they have on tap at this place.
     
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  13. enjoi

    enjoi Initiate (0) Mar 7, 2013 North Carolina

    Wicked Weed Passion Fruit Saison. And i dont care if you call me a girl. Its that good.
     
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  14. keysburg

    keysburg Initiate (0) Mar 28, 2012 Massachusetts

    Yeast? Many breweries have a particular yeast culture that gives their brews a specific flavor... Shipyard perhaps being the most notoriously bad, Ommegang being the flip side in a brewery that focuses on Belgian and therefore uses a Belgian-type yeast culture. I can think of a number of reasons why a brewery might not want to culture/experiment or otherwise mess with multiple yeast cultures. Not the least of which is that some of the Belgian type yeasts can be fickle with their off flavors and therefore more difficult to get a consistent product.
     
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  15. LambicPentameter

    LambicPentameter Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2012 Nebraska

    Absolutely kidding. About some of the comments that I'd seen earlier in the thread.

    Tank 7 is one of my favorite beers and the idea that saisons are a gender-specific style is laughable to me.
     
  16. LambicPentameter

    LambicPentameter Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2012 Nebraska

    Saison Rue is delicious. Better than Saison Diego, but not quite as good as Hennepin. Another American saison that's quality (imho) is Tank 7 from Boulevard. Someone else mentioned Saison de Lente, also from The Bruery, but I think I prefer Saison Rue a bit more. Of course, I love rye, so...
     
  17. TheRealDBCooper

    TheRealDBCooper Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2010 Svalbard & Jan Mayen Islands


    I have no idea what to tell you. Maybe you had a mislabeled beer, but Barn Burner is not even close to sour let alone sour enough to make someone "pucker up like lemonade."
     
  18. mjtiernan

    mjtiernan Initiate (0) Feb 15, 2008 New York

    Yeah, VA gets Tank 7 which I'm hugely jealous about. Also....Brooklyn Sorachi Ace. Do it.
     
  19. Danny1217

    Danny1217 Initiate (0) Jul 15, 2011 Florida

    Saisons are easily one of my favorite styles, and they're catching on in the US. There's so much that can be done to make a saison interesting, so I think we will only see the popularity of saisons rise within American craft brewing.
     
  20. CelticAleMan

    CelticAleMan Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2010 California

    Whoa, buddy. Hold your horses. When I got into craft beer in 99-00, this may have been true. Now many of the best saisons are brewed here in the U.S. Please inform me of Belgian saisons that are clearly better than stuff that is made by Logsdon, Hill Farmstead, Tired Hands, Upright, and many others now. I love Fantome, Dupont, Blaugies, and even Glazen Toren but these are not much, if at all, better than many of saisons being produced in the U.S. now.
     
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