Bottle or Can?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by davidsumner, Jun 4, 2013.

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  1. davidsumner

    davidsumner Initiate (0) Mar 12, 2012 Virginia

    How many here wish that more breweries would make more use of cans?

    One of my go to beers is Sierra Nevada's Torpedo and I only buy it in a can because I love cans. I just wish that some of my other favorites would also come in cans.

    Why? honestly; I have no valid reason... I just like cans. :slight_smile:
     
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  2. Orca

    Orca Grand Pooh-Bah (4,710) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    This topic has been discussed exhaustively here in the past. I also like cans for their portability, durability, storability, minimal headspace, light protection, and other convenient properties. Plus I enjoy impressing girls by crushing them on my forehead.
     
  3. LeRose

    LeRose Grand Pooh-Bah (4,423) Nov 24, 2011 Massachusetts
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    Portable, lightweight, no oxygen permeability, generally allowed just about everywhere (like beaches and parks and such), so what's not to like? Can't "see" the product - can you really see it in a proper brown bottle either? They might not be as "green" eco-friendly as we're led to believe - that turns some people off. Something about mining operations offsets the alleged eco-benefits to an extent when you consider the entire supply chain. Still a good package, though.
     
  4. LAD

    LAD Initiate (0) Apr 16, 2008 Texas

    If you were a real man you would crush bottles on your forehead.
     
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  5. bobbyr5

    bobbyr5 Initiate (0) May 17, 2013 Michigan

  6. ColinStClaire

    ColinStClaire Initiate (0) Jul 31, 2012 Washington

    Hard to say. 99% of the time I am pouring into a glass. However, it depends on where I am. Obviously cans are awesome for their portability, but bottles keep it cooler, longer (when I drink from vessel, it's usually because I am outside grilling in the sun). I have to say cans, only because I love pounders. If more 16 (.8? whatever pliney and paulaner come in) oz bottle were available, I'd buy those too.
     
  7. Orca

    Orca Grand Pooh-Bah (4,710) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    Recycling of metal, plastic, and paper (at a bare minimum) should be mandatory everywhere, even if it's not really enforceable. That would cut down substantially on the need for "fresh" aluminum and give cash-strapped municipalities a new revenue stream. Seattle has had curbside recycling for as long as I can remember, and I'm sure a lot of other areas are the same.
     
  8. Orca

    Orca Grand Pooh-Bah (4,710) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    Say hello to my little friend.
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  9. kenpo23

    kenpo23 Initiate (0) Oct 8, 2009 Massachusetts

    I'm fine with either, however bottles do have a great bonus....

    When I was a teen my father thought it would be cute to pour a beer on my mothers best friend and run away like a giant ten year old. He looked over his shoulder from a good distance away while running, only to get clocked in the forehead with an empty beer bottle. Moms best friend was a great soft ball pitcher. :stuck_out_tongue: Dad split his head open and needed stitches while the bottle remained intact. Try that with a can and it would just be an epic failure.
     
  10. SnowFlowMfg

    SnowFlowMfg Initiate (0) Dec 13, 2011 California

  11. yamar68

    yamar68 Initiate (0) Apr 1, 2011 Minnesota

    This will be a refreshing read.
     
  12. DropDead

    DropDead Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Illinois

    I suppose if I was in public and had to have a beer, cans are the best option. Otherwise I don't care because I will use a glass anyway, tastes better
     
  13. LeRose

    LeRose Grand Pooh-Bah (4,423) Nov 24, 2011 Massachusetts
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    No doubt, but it isn't just the matter of recycling is what I am saying. We recycle like fiends here too. But there's an offset caused by the mining in the first place - even if the percentage of virgin material is lower using recycled aluminum. I had posted a link to an article discussing this counter balance when you look at the supply chain as a whole...damned if I can remember where I found the article, but it would be in one of the old threads on cans versus bottles. What this article did, rather than being polarized and one-sided as these things often become, was attempt to present a balanced accounting of the issue. I am in no way denying the merits of recycling, just saying it isn't always as easy as it seems.

    I'd love for my products to be in aluminum cans - probably 99% of our shelf life issues would simply go away versus our plastic bottles and the opportunity to recycle would be more widespread and much easier than dealing with a mixed plastic stream.

    We don't want the thread to get nuked, so let's leave it where it lies - there's no argument here anyway since we agree on merits of the principle, just pointing out the complexities we sometimes don't see.
     
  14. Feel_the_Darkness

    Feel_the_Darkness Initiate (0) Oct 17, 2012 Virginia

    Cans all day. Big fan. A+ consumption method.
     
  15. miketd

    miketd Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2006 Ohio

    Not sure I agree with the first part, but definitely agree it's not enforceable.

    That said, I prefer cans for the ease in which I can separate them from other garbage and in turn they are more likely to get recycled. I have a tendency to throw bottles in the regular bag, for whatever reason.

    I also like the other reasons people mentioned; I especially like the 16 oz variety.
     
  16. Orca

    Orca Grand Pooh-Bah (4,710) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    I was being a little bit facetious on the "mandatory" part, but I do hate to see material that can easily be reused just buried in a landfill forever. Waste not and all that.

    Cans have the added benefit of not having removable labels, so I'm not tempted to hold onto them for that day, sometime in the indefinite future, when I'll have a couple free hours to try to remove the labels to add to my collection before recycling the containers. So in that regard, I can guarantee that my wife prefers cans as well. And she doesn't even drink.
     
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  17. JimKal

    JimKal Savant (1,213) Jul 31, 2011 North Carolina

    This is an important point for everyone to consider. But, from what I've been able to read, the fact is that cans actually make it into the recycle chain to a much greater extent than bottles. It has to do with the price that a recycler can get for cans compared to glass. The cost of transporting glass and the low value of it means that a much higher percentage of the aluminum is actually going to be recycled.
     
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  18. Vitacca

    Vitacca Pooh-Bah (2,250) Sep 15, 2010 Montana
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    I don't have a preference but if I had access to a canned sour for when I ski/hike/boat, it would make life much better!
     
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  19. sajaffe1

    sajaffe1 Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2013 Utah

    I typically enjoy my beer in proper glassware, but I choose cans. They keep the light out of the beer and seal in freshness better than the bottle. If there is no glassware however, then bottle.
     
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