DME - technique?

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  1. alysmith4

    alysmith4 Pooh-Bah (1,738) Feb 11, 2005 District of Columbia
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    Just curious if there's a special technique to using dry malt extract. When I make solutions in the lab (at work), I always make a "slurry" before adding the dry components to the wet. I got to thinking that this might be a good idea when using DME as well, as the last time I brewed with it, it clumped up quite a bit and took some doing to get it unclumped*. What say you?

    *made-up word
     
  2. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    couldn't hurt.
    dme has a bad habit of sticking to everything once it gets within three feet of steam. I pour off some hot water from the kettle and mix in the bag to melt the DME and then pour that in. DME won't scorch nearly as bad as LME though, so if you turn of the flame it isn't a problem.
    Cheers.
     
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  3. alysmith4

    alysmith4 Pooh-Bah (1,738) Feb 11, 2005 District of Columbia
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    Exactly! That steam is killer.

    Thanks for the tips.
     
  4. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    It has been my experience that you can add Muntons DME to boiling water with minimal clumping from the steam. Briess DME is a totally different matter. When I used Briess DME I add it to cold water and stir it in and then bring to a boil.

    Cheers!
     
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  5. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,421) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    As long as it 'declumps' before the boil is complete, you're fine. I don't recall this ever taking more than 5 minutes with a non-overimposing degree of stirring.
     
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  6. DrewBeechum

    DrewBeechum Pooh-Bah (1,954) Mar 15, 2003 California
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    Reaching back into the foggy recesses of memory: put your DME in a big bowl. Turn off the heat, start stirring it and then use the bowl to rapidly pour the whole mass in before it gets a chance to beard up.
     
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  7. alysmith4

    alysmith4 Pooh-Bah (1,738) Feb 11, 2005 District of Columbia
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    Yes, the Montons is what I'm planning on using. Thanks!
     
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    alysmith4 Pooh-Bah (1,738) Feb 11, 2005 District of Columbia
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  10. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Does the recipe specify the color for the Munich? Also, Munich Malt should be mashed rather than steeped. You probably know that, but I mention it because you added it to your thread about DME.
     
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  11. ipas-for-life

    ipas-for-life Savant (1,041) Feb 28, 2012 Virginia

    I use breiss and I never have a problem breaking it up once it's in the water. The only problem I have is a little bit will stick to the opening of the bag. So I cut the heat once it is boiling and just dump it in as quick as possible. I found if I take my time pouring it in more will stick to the bag.

    I usually have two zip locks full. I dump the first one in and stir for a minute. Then dump the second in and stir for another minute or two tops to make sure it is all disolved. I try to stir mostly at the bottom to make sure it is not sticking and the top sort of takes care of it's self. It never takes me more than a few minutes to have it all disolved and to turn the heat back on.
     
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  12. alysmith4

    alysmith4 Pooh-Bah (1,738) Feb 11, 2005 District of Columbia
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    This is an extract recipe, so I must be misunderstanding what they're calling for. I'll go look for it and post it, maybe that'll help answer the question.
     
  13. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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  14. alysmith4

    alysmith4 Pooh-Bah (1,738) Feb 11, 2005 District of Columbia
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    I'm modifying this recipe, but this was what I was referring to. (It's a ZD clone.)

    6.00 lb Extra Light Dry Extract (3.0 SRM) Dry Extract 70.6 %
    1.00 lb Munich Malt - 10L (10.0 SRM) Grain 11.8 %
    0.50 lb Carafoam (2.0 SRM) Grain 5.9 %
    0.50 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 5.9 %
    0.50 lb Melanoiden Malt (20.0 SRM) Grain 5.9 %
    0.75 oz Citra [12.40%] (First Wort Hop) Hops 12.5 IBU***
    1.00 oz Citra [12.40%] (60 min) Hops 25.1 IBU
    1.00 oz Citra [12.40%] (15 min) Hops 12.4 IBU
    1.00 oz Citra [12.40%] (10 min) Hops 9.1 IBU
    1.00 oz Citra [12.40%] (5 min) Hops 5.0 IBU
    1.00 oz Citra [12.40%] (1 min) Hops 1.1 IBU
    3.00 oz Citra [12.40%] (Dry Hop 10 days) Hops -
    SafAle English Ale (DCL Yeast #S-04)
    or
    Wyeast 1968
    Ferm temp-62-64
     
  15. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    “1.00 lb Munich Malt - 10L (10.0 SRM) Grain 11.8 %”

    Well, Munich Malt is a base malt and technically it should be mashed. I have seen recipes where it is detailed that you steep the Munich Malt but this is a non-standard method. I personally have never steeped Munich Malt so I am unsure what to state here. The conservative thing to do is conduct a mini-mash if you intend to use Munich Malt.

    Cheers!
     
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  16. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    I think I'd nix the other caramel malts and replace with some CaraMunich...and find something other than S-04 : )

    The maltbill isn't what makes ZD ZD anyway, IMHO.
     
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  17. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    I never used DME except in starters. I made a throw back extract batch 2 nights ago. 4# Wheat DME in 1 gallon water on the stove top. I ended up just dumping it into the blender and milkshaking it, then pouring it back into the pot and boiling 15 mins with 1oz Liberty. Topped it off with cold water, pitched a cup of Greek yogurt into it, and put it into the garage. We'll see what comes of it in the next day or so, then hit it with some 1056 to finish her off.
     
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  18. alysmith4

    alysmith4 Pooh-Bah (1,738) Feb 11, 2005 District of Columbia
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    Ohhhkaayyye.
     
  19. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    So the color is 10L. L stands for Lovibond, a color unit. Any 9-10L Munich (not necessarily American, which the recipe didn't specify anyway) should be fine. But again, it should be mashed, and not steeped.
     
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    alysmith4 Pooh-Bah (1,738) Feb 11, 2005 District of Columbia
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