Do people put too much stock in $4$?

As long as I am in the same ballpark +/- $10 or so, I'm satisfied.

 

Yeah that's a bit silly.

 

Ditto, I'm not going to let a few dollars get in the way of being able to try beer(s) that I otherwise wouldn't be able to try. Worried about not getting as good extras? Then maybe he should just ask the other person if its ok not to send extras. Honestly, I won't send whales as extras or anything close but I hope I feel my extras are slightly better or at least equivalent otherwise I can't sleep at night. I feel better when I make someone else happy with extras.

In matter of fact, I have sent out an extra box on more then one occassion or have tried to make up for extras if I feel someone way "out did" me on extras. It sounds like your friend thinks more about himself then being a good beer advocate.

 

It matter to me to an extent. Just setting it up then I'll say X amount of $ in extras. I have gone over and under depending on what I've sent. I would never worry about sending a better extra than what I'll be receiving. If that's an issue for him it's quite alright to say no extras and just plan out all the bottles.

 

It's a good starting point, but never a rule I live by. I have had other traders get really aggresive about it, I usually back away from those trades.

 

I try to stay pretty close to $4$ on most trades with people I'm trading with for the first time, but I'm not super anal about it. It's a good fall back "trade value" where, if nothing else, I'm not losing any money on my trade.

I should state that I don't really trade in super rarities very often though, unless it's through an established trading partner of mine, in which case we usually do a "whatever you think is fair" type of deal. I think they'd all agree that we've been pretty happy on both sides of all of our trades.

 

Yeah locals for locals. For example, Beatitication B5 is $15. I don't think anyone would trade it for a sixxer of Sculpin.

$4$ and rare4rare is what seems the fairest.

 

Squabbling over $5-10 is ridiculous. As is worrying that your extras are "too good" (???). Your friend needs to take a lesson in generosity and good will.

 

I think you should trade how you want, your friend should trade how he wants, and your trading partners should trade how they want.

 

I can drive 1 mile to get PtE @ $6.99, 12 miles to get it @ $5.99, and 22 miles to get it @ $4.99. Lol- wish it were the reverse.

 

I do use $4$ as the basis for most all of my trades. If someone wants more mid-tier for an upper tier, $ wise, then I will oblige, if I want get that upper tier bottle. I do have the expectation of having anything over $8-10 made up by something, often time locals. Personally, any $ value discrepancy less than $8-$10 can be covered/forgotten about with some good extras (not expectation, but usually happens that way).

 

I don't really care within 20% one way or the other. I care even less when limited releases are involved. Extras end up skewing the math anyway, so I don't understand sticklers.

 

I try and stay close on a first trade, but if I trade with the person again, I usually don't care too much. I don't deal a lot in rarity though.

 

$4$ is not very important for me (depending on what beers I am getting), but when I am "under", I always ask the other party if I should add more to match $4$ (before "extras").

 

Long run it evens out IMO so I don't worry about it. I know roughly which are the expensive and not so expensive beers so as long as the beers being traded are in the same range I care that they're beers that I like or might like more than I do that $ matches. I don't bring up $ and most of my trades go down without talking about it.

 

It's not a bit silly. It's outright fucking ******ed. Sorry for the strong word usage, but it is. $4$ is a general guideline. Anyone that insists upon it being spot on, is institutional. Also, when it comes to extras...if you're concerned about what you receive relative to what you send, then either you miss the point of extras entirely, shouldn't be sending them, or should simply clarify the nature of extras being sent (quantity and quality), before consummating the deal. Like the OP said, I don't know how someone could have any goddam fun with beer trading whatsoever operating like that.

 

I prefer ounce for ounce trades. Honestly, does anyone really give a shit about how much they spend on a beer? It is a good way to quantify trades, but I'll never trade for KTG or BA HOTD beers, because the going rate is a limited 22/750 +.