Fernseh-Pils-a-thon 2013

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  1. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    “I also drank almost my weight in IPAs” Wow! That is a ton of beer!!:grimacing:

    Just kidding, Tony!

    “Jack, I hope you weren't waiting for me to get back before you drank the Tannenzäpfle.” No, I just haven’t got round to it yet. I am contemplating doing a side-by- side tasting of Tannenzäpfle and Troegs Sunshine Pils. Do you think that is a proper thing to do?

    Cheers!

    P.S. I attended the National Homebrewers Conference this past weekend and Round Guys (a Philly area craft brewery) gave out free cans of a German Pilsner brewed solely with Cluster hops. I have not drunk that beer yet but that looks to be an ‘interesting’ beer.

    P.S.S I look forward to reading your ‘reports’ from your recent vacation!
     
  2. boddhitree

    boddhitree Pooh-Bah (1,839) Apr 13, 2008 Germany
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    Almost true.
    Sure, as long as it won't kill you. And then report back to us how they tasted.

    Cheers!
    Please report.
     
  3. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    “Please report.”

    I will certainly report on the various Pilsner beers. It may not happen for a while. Over the past three days (at the NHC) I drank a lot of great beer (mostly homebrewed but some great commercial beers as well). I think I need to ‘dry out’ a few days.:flushed:

    Prost!
     
  4. Gutes_Bier

    Gutes_Bier Maven (1,363) Jul 31, 2011 Germany

    I kinda like your title! I'm also not good at this sort of thing, but I nominate "Re-IPAtriation"
     
  5. Gutes_Bier

    Gutes_Bier Maven (1,363) Jul 31, 2011 Germany

    Yes! And as Boddhitree says, please report back. I'm looking forward to your thoughts on the Rothaus, and on how it compares to the locals.
     
  6. boddhitree

    boddhitree Pooh-Bah (1,839) Apr 13, 2008 Germany
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    Snapped this pic in the local REWE supermarket, which is across the strew from my apt. Yuck, eh?
    :slight_frown:. I'd never seen the 3 "Biermix" drinks before. Maybe I hadn't even bothered to look, but today I did, and I'm depressed that's all they could come with - a tired, failing strategy to lure young'uns and women with stuff that has no resemblance to beer at all. The Beck's Gold is also a very weak beer.

    Notice the prices. 3.99€/six-pack, which works out to 0.66€/bottle for 0.5L bottles. A case of 24 would be 15.96€, or 0.66€/bottle again. Jever today was at 0.89€/bottle. Interesting prices, eh?
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    Please don't ask me to drink or try these mix-drink concoctions. I'll refuse.
     
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  7. Gutes_Bier

    Gutes_Bier Maven (1,363) Jul 31, 2011 Germany

    I think the Beck's products are fairly new. I've been seeing a lot of them recently in my local Kaufland as well.
     
  8. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Is it somewhat odd that the labels are in English? Orrr... is this dreck being imported from St. Louis now? :astonished:

    2.5 ABV?
     
  9. boddhitree

    boddhitree Pooh-Bah (1,839) Apr 13, 2008 Germany
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    Very observant… English gives them a "cool" factor that's supposed to differentiate them from Opa's (Gran-pappy's) brews, I think. It's a play to the youth, women and upscale markets, both of which are fleeing beer for (youth & women) Red Bull/Vodka mixes or the like, or (women & upscale) wine.

    2.5% is to keep the appeal to the women & upscale folks, I think, for any wino on the street wouldn't waste his time buying something with so little alcohol. Besides, then women can drink it outdoors on a hot summer day like we would a session beer.
     
  10. Gutes_Bier

    Gutes_Bier Maven (1,363) Jul 31, 2011 Germany

    Germany will often keep a proper name in its original language*. I wonder if these beers were created/named by an English speaker (i.e., American)? If you'll notice, the top half of the sixer is in German. Or it is pure marketing as Boddhitree suggests. I could see either case being true.

    * - I can't think of a better example**, but TV shows and movies will often have the original language name and then a German name, like "Scrubs - der Anfänger".

    ** - not sure this is example is "better", but at the McDonald's down the street from me, a cheeseburger is called a cheeseburger and not "Hackfleisch mit Käse und Brotchen", which it might be called if it were a German invention. If I want two cheeseburgers, I'll say "Zwei Cheeseburgers, bitte". French Fries, however, are Pommes. So what do I know.
     
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  11. boddhitree

    boddhitree Pooh-Bah (1,839) Apr 13, 2008 Germany
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    First, you go to McDs? :stuck_out_tongue: I frequent a few Döner kebab places, especially one that prepares and spices its own mutton spits on site daily.

    Your examples illustrate my point exactly. Who do Scrubs and McDs appeal to most? The former: young women, and latter: kids and teens, and parents thereof. Around the world, be it Japan, Turkey or Germany, English is marketers' shortcut to denote hip- and coolness without having to try hard, even if no one in the target country has a clue what the English words mean… believe me, I've lived in those 3 countries, Japan being the worst offender here, and it's a fact of life where English is a non-native language.

    Ask 100 Germans what "twisted" means in German and I bet you'd get only 4 or 6 correct answers. Tell them it means verdreht, as in a "twisted meaning" and you get eye-rolls and giggles.

    There's another point you subtly made. Often, the native language equivalent either doesn't exist, and/or is too weird to use. Take the word "Craft beer," which is now being used in Germany exactly like in America b/c 1) there is no direct German equivalent that conveys the same meaning, 2) since craft translates to roughly "hand-work" or "hand-made" if you used Handarbeitbier, it doesn't convey the same meaning, which leads to 3) Handarbeitbier sounding dumb, weird and nonsensical in German. It also makes sense to use Craftbeer in German because Kraftbier would translate to "Power-beer" or "electricity-beer," hence they use the C in Craft beer. It also gives it a cool factor that beer today in Germany has lost to Vodka and Red Bulls.
     
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  12. Gutes_Bier

    Gutes_Bier Maven (1,363) Jul 31, 2011 Germany

    Yes, but Döner is also in my lexicon, as is the fast food chicken sandwich place. I keep a nice rotation. :grinning:

    This is well said, and I also wonder if the English language helps them differentiate regular Beck's to the tradition loving German consumer base (i.e, English being a subtle warning to the regular Beck's Pils consumer that this is not what (s)he wants to buy).

    I saw this once and found it funny. Some TV channel interviewing Georg Schneider and the English phrase "Craft Beer" was definitely used amongst the German. I have seen Handwerk used in a context meaning something hand-crafted, but never in application to beer or independent beer makers. Most likely because it is not literallyHandwerk, and those Germans can be rather literal sometimes.
     
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  13. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    I've seen that, and understand the concept -- but it's Beck's, German ought to be it's original language... shouldn't it? :grinning:

    I have a German made coat that was made by the something-or-other Jean Co. Always found it odd that there was no translation for jeans. :wink:

    Yeah, I saw the other parts of the labels too.
     
  14. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    That's a good theory.
     
  15. danfue

    danfue Initiate (0) Sep 16, 2012 Germany


    I bought a mixed six-pack of Bayreuther today, and they actually call it handwerklich gebraut. Hey, and in reference to your pic of the Beck's six-packs for € 3.99 - this one was € 4.99 and it's 0.5l-bottles and proper beer.

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  16. danfue

    danfue Initiate (0) Sep 16, 2012 Germany


    I think they have been around for a few years, but are more heavily marketed during summer.
     
  17. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Do they package for FedEx? :grinning:
     
  18. boddhitree

    boddhitree Pooh-Bah (1,839) Apr 13, 2008 Germany
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    Aktien Zwick'lbier, Landbier and the Original 1857, all from Bayreuther Brauerei, from, are some decent beers. I've had their Zwickel and Landbier, which I liked a lot. I know of only 1 pub in FFM which has it. I've also ordered it from bierzwerg.de. Where did you get it?
     
  19. danfue

    danfue Initiate (0) Sep 16, 2012 Germany


    They seem to be expanding a lot lately. I've even seen their crates of the Zwickl in my local REWE (!!) in Wiesbaden. Apart from that, at least two bottle shops near me got them. I got that box from Trinkgut in Wiesbaden-Biebrich, they also have the Bayreuther Hell and Weissbier, both from the same brewery, but different brand.

    EDIT: The other shop would be Getränke Spezialisten in Wiesbaden-Bierstadt. They also always carry Schlenkerla Märzen, Weizen, Urbock and Lager!
     
  20. Stahlsturm

    Stahlsturm Initiate (0) Mar 21, 2005 Germany
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    The tradition loving German consumer base has long walked on Beck's.
     
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