Counterflow chiller options - kettle has no spigot

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  1. ewright

    ewright Initiate (0) Oct 25, 2007 North Carolina

    I brew batches in a 36 qt aluminum turkey fryer that doesn't have a spigot. I'm currently using a 25' copper immersion chiller, but want to step up to something that will chill wort a lot faster. When it is in the upper 80s outside, I have trouble getting below 75F with this method.

    What options are there with this setup? I'm not sure an auto siphon would do well in boiling wort, particularly if I have to hold it the entire time! Are there better options, or should I look to invest in a better kettle first?
     
  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    The problem is probably not the air temp outside. It's probably the temp of your water. The easiest way to solve that (IMO) is to add a pump to recirculate ice water through the immersion chiller.

    My water temp is currently 71F. Without making the water colder, there's no way any type of chiller could get the wort temp below 71F.
     
  3. scurvy311

    scurvy311 Savant (1,135) Dec 3, 2005 Louisiana

    Weldless ball valves are easy and inexpensive to install in aluminum. Also, if (when) you move up to a larger pot later, the valve can be installed on the new pot. Go with the stainless ball valve and take care of it. It will last a long time. Also, while stirring the wort while chilling won't get it to cool lower than the input water, it will cool MUCH faster if it is being stirred (and stir in the opposite direction of the water flowing through the immersion chiller).

    Here is an example.
    http://morebeer.com/products/weldless-spigot-stainless.html
     
  4. ewright

    ewright Initiate (0) Oct 25, 2007 North Carolina

    I have the junction between the garden hose and the chiller inflow in a bucket of ice water. Once I get down around 125F or so, I disconnect the two while keeping the inflow below the water level. The existing flow keeps a siphoning action going. I then make sure the garden hose is refilling the bucket at roughly the same rate that the ice water flows out. I think I may need to keep more ice on hand though.

    Wow, never thought of that... never really paid too much attention. I've been stirring counter-clockwise for the most part, which I think matches the direction of the water flow. I'll have to try clockwise next time and see if I notice much of a difference.
     
  5. scurvy311

    scurvy311 Savant (1,135) Dec 3, 2005 Louisiana

    Stirring is way quicker than not stirring. However, if you are already stirring, it will not be nearly as big a difference by just switching directions. Once you get below 100-120ish degrees, you can drop a small sump pump into a 5 gal bucket of ice water to pump the ice water through the chiller then direct the output water back nto the bucket and use it as a closed chilling system.
     
  6. afrokaze

    afrokaze Pooh-Bah (1,962) Jun 12, 2009 Oregon
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    You could also buy or build a much smaller immersion chiller to use as a pre-chiller, just put it in an ice bath and hook it up to your original chiller to get colder water going through your wort.
     
  7. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I used to do this. Then I figured out that a pump was more efficient, and cheaper than the second chiller (which has now been retired).
     
  8. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Of course if you are going to use a pump, then you might as well step up to a CFC or plate chiller and have the increased ability to whirlpool, brew lagers, and 10 gal batches.
     
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