How much time to get over the "learning curve"?

It takes 10,000 hours to master a skill. Five years on the "job". More like 2-3 years if pursuing a passion. The 2-3 guys usually make it. The 5 year ones often end up selling their equipment, cheap.

 

No it isn't.I've brewed countless batches, never filtered or pasteurised any of them and practically all dropped water bright reasonably quickly. It's what we call a "cop out" on this side of the pond to pass off cloudy beer as naturally good.It's simply poor presentation unless it's a wheat beer or a style which is intrinsically cloudy.
I drink mostly cask ale which is served while still fermenting in the cask.And I expect it to look like this product from a tiny brewery;

 

I have a 6 month rule – if I visit a brewery after they’ve been open for at least 6 months and I’m unimpressed with their beers, I won’t bother revisiting unless I hear accolades from someone whose beer knowledge I trust. Too much good shit in San Diego to bother with the mediocre stuff.

 

Alright, then.

 

The good ones should have it dialed in between 3 and 6 months.

 

There are some relatively easy solutions to the issue of beer haze:

· The brewery could add finings to the beers. The reason that the cask ale pictured in this thread is clear is likely because Isinglass was used in the cask to help clear the yeast.

· The brewery could utilize different yeast strains that will aid in clearing the beer. A brewpub close to me uses the Ringwood yeast strain since that yeast strain drops bright quickly. That brewpub filters their lagers.

· The brewery could just give the beer more time to let the haze elements settle out but for a new, small business time = money.

· Etc,

As to the aspect of all the beers tasting mediocre, I am unaware of any quick fixes there.

Cheers!

 

Some are stuck on the time it takes for a 5 gallon batch to clear. Stokes Law says particles only drop out so fast, and it takes longer for big verticals tank. Traditional lager breweries have horizontal layering tanks for a reason - less distance the particles to settle out.