German craft beer

Discussion in 'Germany' started by einhorn, Dec 20, 2012.

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  1. Stahlsturm

    Stahlsturm Initiate (0) Mar 21, 2005 Germany
    In Memoriam

    You weren't "in the mood" ?!?!


    Be careful or they may just take away your tankard... :stuck_out_tongue: :grinning:
     
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  2. boddhitree

    boddhitree Pooh-Bah (1,839) Apr 13, 2008 Germany
    Pooh-Bah

    These guys drink lots of beers from Franken and post almost weekly. I'm "friends" with them and love to read all their reports, some of which correspond to what I've posted. I suggest you "Like" them and follow them on FB.


    Notice they're also fans of Pax Bräu.
     
  3. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I contemplated editing out the part of morning and not being in the mood to drink since I suspected that somebody might comment on it. I should have known that the German standup comedian would have been that somebody.:wink:

    Touché!
     
  4. einhorn

    einhorn Savant (1,175) Nov 3, 2005 California

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  5. Gutes_Bier

    Gutes_Bier Maven (1,363) Jul 31, 2011 Germany

  6. boddhitree

    boddhitree Pooh-Bah (1,839) Apr 13, 2008 Germany
    Pooh-Bah

    See folks, it's beginning, whether you want it or not. On FB, a post from "Bier aus Franken."
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  7. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
    Pooh-Bah

    Brewed by two female brewers from the family that owns the brewery. I'd drink it (but I am willing to bet it has already been deemed "Frauenbier" in more ways that one).
     
  8. boddhitree

    boddhitree Pooh-Bah (1,839) Apr 13, 2008 Germany
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    This Frauenbier worth drinking!
     
  9. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    “I'd drink it”

    Of course you would. Would you drink it while playing croquet!?!:wink:

    Prost!
     
  10. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
    Pooh-Bah

    Yep. I am more than secure enough in my masculinity to drink it while playing croquet...as soon as you're ready to catch up with your wife when it comes to drinking a "man's beer," Rauchbier :wink:.
     
  11. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Hey, I am working on it. I am drinking half & half (Rauchbier and Dry Stout) beers.

    Drinking “smoke” is an acquired taste.:wink:

    Prost!
     
  12. Bierman9

    Bierman9 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,313) Dec 20, 2001 New Hampshire
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    I'd hit that! ;-)
     
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  13. einhorn

    einhorn Savant (1,175) Nov 3, 2005 California

    Like clockwork...

    "After Radeberger's Braufactum, the Bitburger Brewery Group, a second large German brewer, enters into the potentially lucrative but slow-developing business with craft beers. For this, the experimental and the specialty (pilot) brewery at Bitburger was renamed "Craftwerk Brewing". The first products - which are not sold in stores but only via the web via GFGH - are a single hop pale ale, a Belgian Style Tripel and an American India Pale Ale. These are being brewed by master brewer Stefan Hanke and his team. Cost: 2.10 to 2.40 euro per 0.33 liter plus deposit and shipping."

    With any level of success, everyone and their mother with get on board.
     
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  14. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Thank you for your continuing reports. It would appear that we are on the cusp of exciting times in Germany. I would venture to say that “single hop pale ale, a Belgian Style Tripel and an American India Pale Ale” is representative of a revolution (vs. a renaissance); but we need to await to see how this all plays out.

    Prost!
     
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  15. WhatANicePub

    WhatANicePub Zealot (712) Jul 1, 2009 Scotland

    Radeberger and now Bitburger – Innovation driven by the biggest brewery corporations in the country. The fact that this is the complete opposite of the American “craft beer” ideology does not bother anyone?
     
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  16. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    Because, regardless of their provenance, IPAs are "exciting" and traditional "lagers" are boring?
     
  17. danfue

    danfue Initiate (0) Sep 16, 2012 Germany


    It does. Although you cannot expect a complete revolution as in the US here, things are too different.
    I reckon it's their strategy to be in control of a possibly emerging branch of the business. If any new brewery is getting too big, they will be bought and integrated in their own side brand "Braufactum", "Craftwerk Brewing", etc.
    What I like about Braufactum though is that they have a collection of international beers available that you won't get anywhere else (except ordering it online).
     
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  18. Gutes_Bier

    Gutes_Bier Maven (1,363) Jul 31, 2011 Germany

    Well I wouldn't say it's "bothering" me but I don't think I'll be buying any. What's more, there are already a few examples of American-style IPA's and even at least one Single Hop Citra beer (Hopfenstopper) on the market.
     
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  19. einhorn

    einhorn Savant (1,175) Nov 3, 2005 California


    Considering that there is already a lot of "craft beer" in Germany coming predominantly from the smaller Bavarian breweries, you have a certain point. Unfortunately, the "little guy" will NEVER make a splash in the market place due to numerous restricting factors. Even if customers demand Beer X, the tied houses (95% of gastronomy) will never serve them. Period. And without a shitload of money, they will never get into the regional retail chains and Getraenkeshops.

    So, as stated in previous posts, the me-too mentality is king in Germany. A few examples: ice beer. In the 90's one company has success with Ice beer, and then EVERYONE had one. Some time thereafter Henninger had the first pre-mixed Radler and within a year, all major breweries followed suit.

    The big guys (remember that no one brand has more than 8% market share) will be the ones to forage ahead, with success the rest will follow. The danger is that there could be a lot of really bad IPAs on the market in a very short time.
     
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  20. Stahlsturm

    Stahlsturm Initiate (0) Mar 21, 2005 Germany
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    What "innovation" are you talking about ? The Americanisation of Germany continues. If that's innovation them please drown me in a keg of Plank Festbier...
     
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