"The Shocking Ingredients In Beer"

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  1. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Thx., Not surprising. Lots of laws these days to enable taxing.... :slight_smile:
     
  2. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Agreed. Rocky Mountain Oysters from ram testicles have a much better flavor for use in a stout. Never have understood why they didn't use top quality ingredients.
     
  3. 46and2

    46and2 Initiate (0) Mar 28, 2008 Missouri
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    +1.

    She forgot this one:

    Water (an ingredient found in nuclear reactors and gasoline)
     
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  4. TheodorHerzl

    TheodorHerzl Savant (1,001) Mar 30, 2007 Indiana

    Where do Briess, Weyerman, etc... Get their grain from? I would like know that Monsanto isn't in that cycle, but I fear they are.
     
  5. VictorWisc

    VictorWisc Maven (1,379) Jan 2, 2013 Massachusetts

    Not fair! You added the pic after I already posted the reply...
     
  6. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    The word shocking is overused. Eat moar bacon.
     
  7. lotsaswigs

    lotsaswigs Initiate (0) Jan 24, 2006 Michigan

    Well, I'd guess they like them since they're a style you find all over the country and on every menu in any restaurant. But interestingly almost no one in my wife's family (she's German) really likes beer and the only ones who do usually drink pilseners...

    But to me the hefe's are where German beer reigns supreme, rarely do I drink one in the states that stacks up to stellar examples I've had from all over Germany.
     
  8. Roguer

    Roguer Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,811) Mar 25, 2013 Connecticut
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    Absolute waste of an article. Why should I care about fish bladder? Is that somehow not natural? Or GMO corn? (Feel free to take a side; that's what opinions are for. Yet, something tells me that she has absolutely no idea what the implications of GMO actually are, none of which involve the quality, flavor, or safety of your beer.)

    Also humorously, under the original Reinheitsgebot, some now-classic German beers were not legal. As brewing developed and science progressed, the ultra-strict original wording no longer worked (for example, unfiltered wheat beers, or, you know, YEAST). As often as people love to cite the Reinheitsgebot as the prime example of ingredient purity, it was neither eternal nor perfect, and changing times (and understanding) required flexibility of the law.

    In other words, the Germans aren't simple-minded automatons of brewing, and most "journalists" apparently haven't heard of research. Or Google, for crying out loud.
     
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  9. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    OK then. The "German Beer Institute" sounds all authoritative and well informed until you see that it's written by Horst Dornbusch.I'll let patto1ro take over; http://barclayperkins.blogspot.co.uk/2010/12/horst-dornbuschs-ultimate-almanac.html
    http://barclayperkins.blogspot.co.uk/2011/01/more-dornbusch-bullshit.html
     
  10. BurgeoningBrewhead

    BurgeoningBrewhead Initiate (0) Jul 18, 2012 Pennsylvania


    Definitely agree. They've got history, and their prowess in their own styles is legendary, but they have no room to grow.
     
  11. BurgeoningBrewhead

    BurgeoningBrewhead Initiate (0) Jul 18, 2012 Pennsylvania

    I don't give much credence to that site; it just trots out the standard vegan tropes and shock-bait (corn syrup? oh no! GMO? those are bad, so i've been told but don't really understand why! fish bladders? gross!).
    Worcestershire sauce is made from whole anchovies fermented until they literally disintegrate, bones and all. Does that make it less tasty? No. Does that make me not want to eat it? No.
    Tons of food has used ingredients from odd places; it's been that way for centuries. Just because a common coloring is derived from insect shells doesn't mean there's insect shells in your beer. Just because a common flavoring comes from a beaver gland that happens to be located near its anus doesn't mean there's beaver diarrhea in your beer. And isinglass is used in all sorts of things, and has been for a long time. I don't think Guiness meant it to be a secret, but they didn't advertise it on the front page because it's not important (and they know that people would freak out because a common ingredient has a "gross" source). All of the offenders are macro brands; and so far I don't think AB/Inbev has changed what Goose Island is doing (and I'm also confused in that the site seems to think Rolling Rock was a craft brand...).
     
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  12. VictorWisc

    VictorWisc Maven (1,379) Jan 2, 2013 Massachusetts

    As expected, no sense of humor... The jokes appear to write themselves.

    As for the GBI, it's goofy in other ways. Check out their "breweries" page that's supposed to list their members. It's been around for almost 10 years now and still says "Work in progress". In other words, no one takes them seriously. Doesn't mean that the writeups are worthless, but there should be some nagging doubts. I'm always skeptical of random proclamations on the net, so none of this surprises me. But pardon me for not taking "knowledgeable bloggers" of British origin seriously either, for the same reason.
     
  13. ipamonster

    ipamonster Devotee (337) Jun 18, 2013 Rhode Island

    What do you think her opinion is on the quality of the hot dogs, pizza, nachos and wings I eat will drinking my surprise ingredients in beer?
     
  14. RBCORCORAN

    RBCORCORAN Initiate (0) May 18, 2009 Massachusetts

    Don't forget her favorite ice cream with natural flavoring a.k.a. beaver anal gland secretions. yummy
     
  15. VictorWisc

    VictorWisc Maven (1,379) Jan 2, 2013 Massachusetts

    She gets her clues from CSPI...
     
  16. ZachKelly

    ZachKelly Initiate (0) Dec 25, 2012 Virginia

    This was a link that my local brewery sent out today. I thought it was interesting, nothing too shocking in it. Just another reason to buy craft beer. My local is Blue and Gray Brewery in Fredericksburg, VA. Good Quality and they do it the right way.



    http://foodbabe.com/2013/07/17/the-shocking-ingredients-in-beer/
     
  17. Grohnke

    Grohnke Initiate (0) Sep 15, 2009 Illinois

    i see they use "fish bladder" instead of isinglass. I suppose "fish bladder" is a bit more impactful for the authors purpose.
     
  18. Grohnke

    Grohnke Initiate (0) Sep 15, 2009 Illinois

    i see she's proudly drinking wine in the picture at the bottom....hope shes enjoying that fish bladder
     
  19. Grohnke

    Grohnke Initiate (0) Sep 15, 2009 Illinois

    i really hate everything about the article, including the use of "babe" in her title
     
  20. ZachKelly

    ZachKelly Initiate (0) Dec 25, 2012 Virginia

    lol, just thought it was interesting. can't take any of this stuff to seriously. I would never be shocked to see that macro brewers are using high fructose corn syrup or anything. Won't stop me from enjoying a Guinness every now and again.
     
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