Volunteering in Austin breweries.

Discussion in 'Southwest' started by MrLupulos, Jul 15, 2013.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. MrLupulos

    MrLupulos Initiate (0) Jul 28, 2007 Texas

    Wow this is ridiculous I never stated that one week of volunteer work would allow me to open a brewery the next day, I guess only folks who study or enjoy prehistoric stuff and find this laughable think that way. I'm actually kind of surprise to see some of the responses in this post, for those of us homebrewers I think we are quite aware that homebrewing at home and brewing in 20BBL or 30BBL equipment is a whole different ballgame and that's just the beer part of the business which is the fun part. For those of us educated in business we are more than aware that they are multiple pieces to the puzzle and a microbrewery is no exception. With that said I feel that homebrewing gives one the basic foundation needed to make that jump to the big leagues, but like omnigrits stated if we want to pursue that route we will need to start at the bottom and work our asses up the chain like in any other job. I do feel though that a well educated homebrewer with the knowledge, passion and dedication can absolutely handle his own in any brewery. Many homebrewers have taken that leap some faster than others take Sam Calagione with Dogfish he started brewing in the early 90s and launched Dogfish in 95 so that at best gave him 5yrs to learn the craft that really isn't a whole lot of time. Whoever has read the book Outliers by Malcom Cadwell would know that technically it takes about 10yrs of constant practice to master anything and Im a big believer in that. Education is important in life but lets be real not all Head brewers hold certificates from Siebel Institue or Doemens Academy in Germany which is a point prlonghorn made, an average brewmaster more than likely learned his skills from homebrewing and from other brewmaster that where willing to assist them and allowed them to volunteer at his or her brewery. So for those of us wanting to enter the business volunteering is a key step into the industry.
     
    E-DUBB and prlonghorn87 like this.
  2. prlonghorn87

    prlonghorn87 Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2013 Texas

    Well said...

     
  3. reverseapachemaster

    reverseapachemaster Zealot (722) Sep 21, 2012 Texas

    Yeah well I'm still waiting for DFH to put out a beer that isn't a goopy mess.
     
  4. prlonghorn87

    prlonghorn87 Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2013 Texas

    I wonder what your smoking. DFH produces some of the best beers in the market. Even your own Beer Advocates give DFH beers over 80%. Midas Touch (84%), Festina Peche (82%), 60 minute (92%), 90 minute IPA (95%, which is world class here in BA), 120 minute IPA (90%).

    You probably think Bud Light is a quality beer. Nice, smooth Bud Light huh?

     
  5. Lutter

    Lutter Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2010 Texas

    This is the most heated DFH debate I've heard since Sam Caligione posted on BA! I'm on the edge of my seat! :slight_smile:
     
    champ103 and Eriktheipaman like this.
  6. elNopalero

    elNopalero Grand Pooh-Bah (5,822) Oct 14, 2009 Michigan
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    As someone who lived in Texas for a while, volunteered in an Austin brewery when I could, and now lives in San Francisco I'm wondering what you mean by west coast mentality--More hops?

     
  7. elNopalero

    elNopalero Grand Pooh-Bah (5,822) Oct 14, 2009 Michigan
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Edit: apparently I need to type faster too!
     
  8. MrLupulos

    MrLupulos Initiate (0) Jul 28, 2007 Texas

    This is the first time I hear somebody trash DFH, a goopy mess? Not sure what the fuss your drinking besides piss water but id be curious to find out what you consider a really good beer if DFH isnt up to your standards.
     
  9. kmello69

    kmello69 Initiate (0) Nov 27, 2011 Texas


    It's called an opinion, guys. Funny to see how people jump up someone's ass when they don't like a certain beer/brewery. Personally, I've also found very few DFH beers I enjoy, and I don't smoke anything or drink piss water. :astonished:

    Back on topic - brewing is cool!
     
    air likes this.
  10. bulletrain76

    bulletrain76 Maven (1,311) Nov 6, 2007 California

    I got my start as an intern (unpaid) at a small brewery in the town where I was going to college. Basically I just shoveled grain, weighed hops, and helped with bottling. This was a really small place with only a handful of people so it wasn't too hard to fit me in to do some easy tasks. Plus the pace was slow and the scale was small.

    Now I work at a regional brewery with a dozen brewers and dozens of other staff, making batches from 100-500 barrels. We have a couple interns--one in the lab, who is a recent microbiology graduate from the local university, working for us for the summer, and a brewing intern who is over here for three months on break from getting his masters degree in brewing technology from Weihenstephan in Bavaria. We pretty much get a lab intern every summer, but for brewing, this is only the second one we've had in a couple years and both have been from Europe with degrees in brewing. When you get to our scale, it's just way more work than it's worth to train people to do things besides just clean floors, except in exceptional cases.

    So I guess the smaller the better is what I'm saying. But don't get hung up on volunteering. For a lot of people, it takes the commitment of getting a job cleaning kegs and scrubbing floors. To get a brewing job where I work, you pretty much have to have gone to a brewing school, which just tells them that you are committed to this life and have a sound understanding of how a commercial brewery works. Siebel/UC Davis/American Brewers Guild aren't cheap but they're cheaper than an MBA and it's a good idea to have either a diploma from one of those or years of work experience if you want to start your own brewery.
     
    E-DUBB, NiceFly and air like this.
  11. nsheehan

    nsheehan Savant (1,206) Jul 3, 2011 Texas
    Trader

    Umm... homebrewing is necessary but not sufficient.

    OP, you seem quite confident in opening a brewery, I wish you the best of luck. Any chance some Austin BAs could sample your homebrews?

    P.S.
    What does this mean?
    And may I ask what type of engineer you were?
     
  12. Lutter

    Lutter Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2010 Texas

    To me the phrase "west coast mentality" round these parts usually translates to "assholes". :slight_smile:
     
  13. prlonghorn87

    prlonghorn87 Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2013 Texas

    nsheehan,

    I agree with you, homebrewing is a necessity, but its not sufficient. I think the OP recognizes this and that is why he wants to volunteer in one of the local breweries. To at least gain some knowledge. Volunteering doesn't make anyone an expert, but it at least gives a person the flavor of how a brewery is run day-to-day. Obviously, not enough to go an open ones own brewery but any knowledge is better than none. Anyways, to answer your question I studied aerospace engineering.

    OP, I agree with nsheehan that you sound confident in opening a brewery. I am assuming that you have a couple of award winning recipes up your sleeve? If so, what are your specialty beers?

    Close, lol, but I was trying to go more for stuck up, whether I be wrong or not. And yes, I recognize that there are a few of those in DFW too.

     
  14. UT-Alex

    UT-Alex Initiate (0) Sep 15, 2012 Texas

    The way you quote frustrates me.
     
  15. krmkrm

    krmkrm Initiate (0) Jul 15, 2013 Alaska

    Me too. Sexually.
     
    air likes this.
  16. prlonghorn87

    prlonghorn87 Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2013 Texas

    I guess I didnt get the memo for the TPS reports...you mind getting me a copy?

     
  17. videofrog

    videofrog Maven (1,256) Nov 13, 2010 Texas
    Trader

    I was looking to getting into homebrewing, but wanted to test the waters as a volunteer before starting up my own homebrewing operation. Anybody have an open volunteer position in the ATX area? Be Friendly.
     
  18. air

    air Zealot (671) Mar 28, 2007 Texas

    Just seemed counter-intuitive to start typing a reply at the top, rather than where the cursor goes by default?
     
    thirdeye11 and UT-Alex like this.
  19. prlonghorn87

    prlonghorn87 Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2013 Texas

    Weird, mine defaults on top...easy enough to fix if it makes people more comfortable.
     
    UT-Alex likes this.
  20. bulletrain76

    bulletrain76 Maven (1,311) Nov 6, 2007 California


    Just wanted to say that it's funny that you responded after my post about volunteering at a brewery during college with a profile pic of the school that I was going to at the time. And you live in Texas. Weird. Assuming you went to UCSB, I applaud your ability to leave the Central Coast. After a few stints elsewhere, it sucked me back in.
     
    nsheehan likes this.
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.