Experimental Stout (Autumn Warmer?) Extract Recipe

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  1. VincentFrey

    VincentFrey Initiate (0) Jul 30, 2011 Maryland

    I decided to play around with something between a stout and an ESB, with flavoring for a winter warmer. There's some weird backstory, but here's the recipe. Any critiques would be awesome.

    Rabo's Special Stout

    Malt

    3.3lb Briess Golden Light LME
    3.3lb Briess Rye LME
    1lb Chocolate Malt
    1lb Biscuit Malt

    Boil
    30 - 4oz Gnome Vanilla Extract
    30 - 1oz Cluster
    15 - 1oz Cluster
    10 - 1oz Sweet Orange Peel
    10 - 1oz Nelson Sauvin
    05 - 1oz Nelson Sauvin

    Fermentation
    WLP013 London Ale Yeast
    2oz American Oak

    Secondary
    2oz American Oak
    Month from when hydrometer reading on the primary evens out.
     
  2. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    I've used one ounce of sweet orange peel (dried) and I didn't notice any particular orangey flavor from it. Added at 10 minutes, but I don't think it was enough. Fresh might be different, never tried it.

    I like the cluster addition, neutral on the nelson (haven't used it myself, only drank commercial beers with it). .
     
  3. premierpro

    premierpro Savant (1,060) Mar 21, 2009 Michigan

    Sounds interesting! I do not brew with oak or orange peel but have enjoyed a few. Let us know how it comes out.
     
  4. checktherhyme

    checktherhyme Savant (1,036) Apr 8, 2008 Washington

    How prominent do you want the vanilla extract to be exactly? Boiling it for 30 minutes may be too long if you want a pernounced vanilla flavor and aroma. Just a thought.
     
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  5. Travisurfin247

    Travisurfin247 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2010 South Carolina

    Yep. The vanilla extract flavor and aroma will boil off rapidly. I would consider adding the vanilla with the secondary oak addition instead of in the boil.
     
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  6. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Looks like an interesting spiced Brown Ale.
    I don't want to rain on your parade, but Biscuit is not IMO suitable for steeping, because it is full of unconverted starches. If you want to use it, I'd recommend replacing some of your light extract with a pale ale malt and do a mini-mash of the pale ale malt, the biscuit, and (maybe) the chocolate. (But the chocolate is steepable if you just want to mini-mash the other two.) The mini-mash will convert the starches in the Biscuit to fermentable (and non fermentable) sugars.
     
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  7. VincentFrey

    VincentFrey Initiate (0) Jul 30, 2011 Maryland

    Thanks for all the feedback everybody! The vanilla and orange peel are ideally going to be more subtle, but definitely worth considering all the notes here.

    As for the mini mash, that was the plan! Sorry I didn't write it out; whenever I do extract (since I'm in a Baltimore apartment hard to do all-grain anymore) I try to mini-mash the specialty grains.
     
  8. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    But you don't have a any grains in your grain bill to provide the diastatic power (enzymes) for a mini-mash. That's why I suggested a pound of pale ale malt (or some other malt with enzymes). When you 'mash' without enzymes, it's not a mash, it's a steep. A steep is okay for Chocolate Malt, but not for Biscuit.
     
  9. VincentFrey

    VincentFrey Initiate (0) Jul 30, 2011 Maryland

    good point! i bought a pound of pilsen for the mini-mash but did not include it above. Again, apologies.
     
  10. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    If you're looking for a subtle vanilla flavor, I would recommend using a smaller amount later in the process, rather than more earlier. Them jawns ain't cheap.
     
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