Kane Brewing...

I'm torn on this. On the one hand, you are right in that if they dropped the limit, it gets to more people.

On the other hand, I effing hate it when a brewery changes the game up right before they open. If I'm going to get there early and stand in line (in the rain no less), I want what you promised me. Otherwise, I could have shown up an hour later and gotten more sleep. I shouldn't have to be penalized bc people didnt understand that a 4 bottle limit with less than 200 bottles = need to get there an hour early.

For the record, I was 1.5 hours away at 10:30 and decided to hang back rather than be disappointed. Thrilled that Kane is getting the love tho! If anyone has an extra and wants some DC deliciousness, yell at me.

 

We have all been on both ends of this so most of us would understand. And who is going to be more disappointed if they reduce the limit, the guy who got there an hour early and is only leaving with 2 or 3 bottles instead of 4, or the guy who got there 15 minutes before opening and is leaving there empty handed; watching people walking out with a bottle in each hand and 1 under each arm? And your last comment "If anyone has an extra and wants some DC deliciousness, yell at me" makes the case for the 2 bottle limit even more. It's the guys that grabbed 4 bottles (knowing they could probably land some OTWOA or whatever in a trade,) that are keeping the people that drove down to the brewery and would have loved to land just one bottle from enjoying it themselves.
Also happy to see Kane doing so well, they are a great brewery. Now get Head High bottled (or canned) for me already and I'll be even happier!!!

 

Respectfully disagree on this. I grabbed my 4 bottles and I had nothing to do with people getting zero. Thats 100% on them for knowing its a less than 200 bottle release, with a 4 per limit -- and still showing up at open or slightly before open. I learned about the release late Thursday, I wanted the beer, I made sure I was going to be one of the first 40 in line - period.

 

I hear you and don't blame you for grabbing 4. There's no right or wrong answer. i am just looking at it from the Brewery's perspective. If i am them, I would probably like to make as many of my customers happy as possible. I'm sure they will learn to deal with their success and do things differently in the future, but we will see. These are problems every brewery would love to have.

 

If you're anywhere near Essex county let me know. Ill split one with you.

Edit - as long as you're OK with dogs!!!!

 

I agree with this. My buddy and I drove down hoping to land just one bottle each to share with each other and our friends. Instead we were told when we got in that they sold out and then we walked into the bigger room and saw one guy walking out with a whole case under his arm and a few people sitting at a table that had two cases of it.

I know I'm going to hear it for this post, but I am of the opinion that just because you can buy four bottles doesn't mean you should. What if there was no bottle limit? Would the first 10 people have bought 20 bottles each leaving everyone else empty-handed? This is why I don't wipe out an entire store's stock of limited releases, I'm happy with my one or sometimes two bottles so that more people can have a chance to enjoy their one or two bottles. My buddy and I could have potentially left with eight bottles but we were hoping to just snag one each. Some guy on Kane's facebook page posted a picture of his eleven bottles of barrel-aged Morning Bell on his dining room table. That guy is a selfish jackass in my opinion, especially because he felt the need to rub it in our faces that he got eleven bottles and most of the people posting on the page got zero.

With that said, I obviously deserve the most blame for not leaving early enough, but since you can't stop people from being selfish, four bottles was clearly too high of a limit. Kane has acknowledged that, but they didn't want to go back on what they had already promised, which I agree with. Anyway, it was a bummer but they already had more barrels of Morning Bell aging, so I know I'll have another chance and that I need to get there sooner next time, and that the limit will be less than four bottles. Kind of a bummer, but no big deal.

 

The people at Kane are stand up guys.
I was shut out of the release, but still hold Kane in high regard:
Kane Brewing Company Thanks again for everyone that came out today. We apologize to anyone that came down and didn't get a bottle. This was the first release that their was a line out front before we opened and we were very surprised. Had we know that was going to be the case we would have made the bottle limit lower so that more people could have gotten a few. But once we announced four we didn't feel comfortable changing it this morning. Now we know for the next small batch release. Thanks again for the support.

 

And -- did you look inside the case, was it full? Because when I bought my 4, they asked me if I wanted a bag or box, so I could have walked out with what looked like a case too.

What if people showed up to a 200 bottle limited release early in order to make sure they got one? What ifs are fun.

As far as the people on FB, yeah, my wife showed me the posts -- but "what if" they aren't all his. I had two groups of guys in front of me. They bought as a group so Kane put all the bottles in the same case. Saw that happen twice. Maybe those are the group bottles and he's posting just to eff with the people suffering from butthurt.

 

I guess this is a lot of people's first brewery release or something? It's like I'm looking 3 years into the past. I can't wait until the next release when the bottle limit is 2 and people are complaining that is too low and I can't believe how selfish Kane is.

 

I think most people would have assumed that Kane would be under the radar. I think the cat is out of that bag. Any complaining about stuff like this is out of bounds, the only feedback that should be directed at Kane is admiration for they work they are doing. Get over it and realize there is much more to come from them - it will only get better (or worse depending on how you look at things ).

 

I think lowering the allocation to 2 once they realized the line and all would have been a sick move... But it also would have Ben the right move to make. That way it would have allowed everyone to get something. If after the initial line was taken care of then double dipping and getting 1-2 more bottles would have been ok. Most of the brewery only releases I have been to with #'s around 200 bottles are limited to 1-2 bottles typically.

All of this said... I had no ability to go I was hosting a tasting in South Jersey with 10 other dudes that starte at 11 am. It would have been nice to get bottles, but I'm mature enough to know I can't get every beer. Once I heard they were aiming for an August release of BA Morning Bell I knew I was out of the running. My weekends in August are pretty much all booked.

 

I guess you conveniently missed the part where I said I blame myself the most for not getting there early enough. Thanks for repeating what I had already admitted but with an added douchy tone.

If they just put the four bottles into the box for people then that's different, but the people buying four bottles each as a group is what my beef is. Obviously since the limit was four it wasn't one person buying an entire case. With less than 200 bottles available, 12 of them shouldn't go to one group of three people, especially when it is a 750mL bottle that is easily shared with friends. When one small group of friends ends up with over 6% of the total amount of bottles that have been made available, clearly the limit of four is too high. This is why my buddy and I were only hoping for one bottle each, we have no interest in hoarding as much as possible, we were just hoping to be able to share it amongst ourselves and two or three other friends.

 

Even Kane said themselves that they weren't anticipating this kind of turnout, so I don't think it's fair to say anyone who wasn't there an hour early is a foolish rookie. We just underestimated how popular this beer was going to be. That is clearly our fault, but I still say the limit of four per person is too high, and I even said that Friday night when I found out about the release before I even knew it was going to sell out so fast, so this isn't just sour grapes.

 

If I'm being douchy, the following is the prime example of whiny....."12 of them shouldn't go to one group of three people". Says who?!?!? They did was was necessary to buy them, you didn't. You admit responsibility in one sentence, but still whine like you were wronged. You "blame myself the most" should be you "blame myself 100%".

 

Eh I don't know, even as a person who just missed out and probably would have been able to buy a bottle if they lowered the limit to two, I don't think that kind of bait-and-switch would have been a good move on their part. I agree with their decision to stick to their word even once they realized the limit was too high.

 

You are being ridiculous. I am not whining, I am just stating the limit was too high, which even Kane themselves admitted. Do you think the limit of four per person was reasonable? You think it makes sense for 12 out of under 200 bottles to go to the same group of people?

 

You didn't just state the limit was high, you went a bit further than that and you know it.
I have no problem with your comments that the limit was high. I agree with that comment and also agree it wouldn't have been cool to change it Saturday morning. But they didn't hide the limit from us, they didn't announce the limit while people were in line. We all knew what the limit was. Some of us realized it was high so we made sure we got there to be the first 40 in line. The limit didn't prevent you from getting the beer. You did. If the limit was still 4 and you showed up 2 minutes before me, you would have had your bottle. To me, that shows the limit wasn't the issue, it was time.

and no, I have no problem with 12 bottles going to the same group. Maybe they love MB and were super excited. Maybe they are sending some to friends or maybe they are trading it. Its their beer, they did what they needed to do to buy that beer, they can drain pour it for all I care. If I could have bought more I would have, then it wouldn't be a "special occasion" beer...it would be a "eff it there's shit on TV on Monday" beer.

 

and oh yeah, at least I didn't f@ck Lumberg

 

Well I guess we'll have to agree to disagree then. Yes, I should have gotten there earlier as I stated in my first post in this thread and I will be doing that next time around, but where we differ seems to be in your last sentence where you said if you could have bought more you would have. I would rather have a modest amount to split with my buddies so that others can pick some up too. If it's not a limited release then I have no problem buying a ton of it, but if there's only a small amount out there then I'm happy to have just enough to try once or twice. I know this is not a popular opinion, but oh well. I hope you enjoy the beer and I'll get some next time.

Say hello to LUMBERGH FOR ME!

 

So to the "groups" of people that bought full allotments wats to say they didn't buy for friends who couldn't make the the release. A lot of people pick up and share with locals when limited beer is released.

If I would have been able to go. Hell yea I would of brought my gf so she could get a full allotment also. But I would of only prolly kept 1-2 bottles for my self. The rest would of been dispursed among friends that couldn't make. Cus that's how its supposed to work. U help each other out.

I was wit the dagrizz Saturday and knew I had no chance of getting any its not a big deal. Maybe some one will have an extra and I ll get to try at a tasting sometime. If not hopefully I can make it to next release.

Otherwise I will continue to spend money and my time at kane. Because its a great place. Great aatmosphere. Great people. And they make some amazing beer and some even better one offs.

And wats gonna happen if Kane does expand and has an extreme demand for there beer and it sells out so quickly its hard to keep locals happy. Just think of a brewery up north.

Otherwise enjoy the beer they make be glad u can access it

And quit acting like ur entitled to anything or someone else is getting too much