Heat Stick vs Burner

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by sjverla, Jul 16, 2013.

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  1. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    For what it's worth, I do full boils on my gas stove top by bringing 4 gallons to a boil in one 7 gallon aluminum kettle across 2 burners while simulataneously bringing 4 gallons to a boil in one five gallon stainless kettle across the other 2 burners. The boil gets pretty active by the 30 min mark. I boil for 2 hours after this point. I split hop additions between kettles and don't bother trying to make sure each kettle gets exactly half - I eyeball it. With 15 minutes left, there has been enough blowoff from both kettles that I can easily fit the contents of my 5 gallon kettle and wort chiller into the 7 gallon kettle so that I chill just one kettle. Maybe you can adapt in a similar way.
     
  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I do something similar on my stove. But I do (usually, well, sometimes) measure the hop splits. There is a theoretical utilization difference as you move away from a proportional split. (i.e. an exact proportional split is most efficient)
     
  3. PortLargo

    PortLargo Pooh-Bah (1,831) Oct 19, 2012 Florida
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    A suggestion: I draw my strike/sparge water from the hot water tap, ~120°, to minimize time to raise temps. Of course your wort will be 160+ to start your boil.

    And don't be afraid to mix water and electricity . . . millions of people in third world bathe every day with a heating element directly in the shower head. Sure it's called a suicide shower but few actually file complaints. :wink:
     
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  4. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,421) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    While I'm not saying it shouldn't be done, a typical stove top is not designed to have a giant kettle spanning 4 burners. Consider the air flow limitations. I would advise you to stay vigilant and make sure your CO2 detector has a fresh battery.

    If the unspeakable should happen, can I get dibs on your hops? :wink:
     
  5. OddNotion

    OddNotion Pooh-Bah (1,915) Nov 1, 2009 New Jersey
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    I should note that it is important to keep windows and doors open with fans circulating the air.
     
  6. sjverla

    sjverla Initiate (0) Dec 1, 2008 Massachusetts

    I hadn't expected so many people here to do split boils. Probably something I should consider...but it's more math for me to do. Not much, but I'm adverse to doing stuff like that because I'm adverse to doing stuff like that. Are the results worth the extra lifting though? Most likely. Now I just have to get myself on board...

    When I brew, I really prefer to take deep breaths as close to the burners as I can get my face while still keeping my eyebrows, so Mike, you might be getting my hops after all. Seriously though, I get a pretty decent cross-breeze through my kitchen, but I'll bust out another fan or two, just to be safe.
     
  7. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    I'm too lazy to weigh each hop addition twice. I used to count pellets to try to even it out. Now I weigh the overall addition and then divy it up between the kettles using the eyeball method. Close enough, as far as I'm concerned.
     
  8. kdb150

    kdb150 Initiate (0) Mar 8, 2012 Pennsylvania


    Interesting. How old is your stove? Mine is seriously outdated, but I must get more power because I boil off about 1.25 gallons in an hour of boiling ~7 gallons of wort using 2 burners.

    What I really want is one of those new gas stoves that has a power burner in close proximity to the big long burner that's for heating up a long griddle. My kettle could span both of those plus another burner. Just turn it on and watch it go wild. Makes me tear up just thinking about it.
     
  9. geezerpk

    geezerpk Initiate (0) Nov 8, 2010 South Carolina

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  10. sjverla

    sjverla Initiate (0) Dec 1, 2008 Massachusetts

    That's fascinating actually. Kudos for finding something a little off the beaten path and making it work. If they only sold the element I'd be all over it. I'm trying to do this for under $40.
     
  11. Applecrew135

    Applecrew135 Crusader (431) Jul 18, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Out of curiosity, what is the maximum volume of wort you could boil with this unit? Can't seem to find anything other than the size of the turkey it will handle... :wink:
     
  12. OddNotion

    OddNotion Pooh-Bah (1,915) Nov 1, 2009 New Jersey
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    A reviewer states that the pot it comes with is 30 qts (7.5 gallons) and uses about 4 gallons of oil with the turkey. Not sure how much that helps but it seems as if it is a decently strong element.

    Edit: Another person says that they brought 6 gallons of water to a boil with no problem.
     
  13. Applecrew135

    Applecrew135 Crusader (431) Jul 18, 2012 Pennsylvania

    I was thinking about a new boil kettle! I'm currently using a 20-quart pot, which is limiting my batch size. I also like the fact that is has a temperature control! I'll have to look at some of the reviews. Thanks!
     
  14. geezerpk

    geezerpk Initiate (0) Nov 8, 2010 South Carolina

    My element burned out after multiple uses, Cajun sold me a new one for only $28.00 if I remember correctly. You might want to check it out.

    A caveat on these elements. The thermostats on the heating element isn't especially accurate. Usually reads about 30 degrees too high, and doesn't hold up well after multiple uses. After I got the replacement heating element, I cracked open the malfunctioning one and disconnected all of the wiring going to the heat control board and thermostat. Then I replaced some of the lighter weight wiring with heavier stuff and made sure that the connecters, black, white and green were clean and pinched solidly onto the terminals. I've since done the same thing to the replacement unit.

    The element will handily give a nice boil to 6.5 gallons, but it takes a little patience to get there. A thermostat or heat control is nice, but not really that necessary with this unit. Running full blast, full time the element just maintains a nice rolling boil with no spilling over.
     
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