Brewing FIrst All-Grain, Amber Ale

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by BigJoeC, Aug 8, 2013.

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  1. Applecrew135

    Applecrew135 Crusader (431) Jul 18, 2012 Pennsylvania

    In BeerSmith, you have the ability to set up your equipment profile to specify your boil-off losses. This will all play into the amount of wort BeerSmith will calculate for you. A boil off of 2 gallons per hour seems excessive. On the equipment profile page, uncheck the "use as hourly rate" and put in your known boil off loss for a known boil time. My own experience is something on the order of 1 gallon per hour. Set that up correctly and BeerSmith should give you some better numbers for boil volume. You may need to switch the profile in your recipe and then switch it back to see the effect.

    Cheers!
     
  2. mnstorm99

    mnstorm99 Initiate (0) May 11, 2007 Minnesota

    Really, I would keep it simple until you get your feet wet.
    Munich and Vienna are malts (both can be used as base malts) that I use often to give a little extra character to american 2-row varieties. I don't mix them often, but you might want to use one or the other for a while until you get to know them.
    Biscuit malt is a take it or leave it malt, and there are people who simply don't like it. I would suggest venturing into it with a bit more caution, until you know how much you like it.
    I would suggest dropping the crystal malts down a little bit as well, unless you plan to mash at a low temp. But, I would lower the crystal malt and aim for 152° (nice middle ground) since you don't know your system yet and nailing mash temps takes a few batches.

    Really, for your first all grain, keep it simple. Here is my suggestion:
    8# 2-row
    2# vienna or munich
    3/4# crystal 40
    3/4# crystal 120
    Mash at 152° and plan for about 65% efficiency.
    Also, I like this hop schedule
    1/2oz Centennial @ 60min
    1/2oz Centennial @ 15min
    1/2oz Cascade @ 15min
    1/2oz Cascade @ 5min

    Is this your first full boil? Or have you done full boils with extract?
     
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  3. BigJoeC

    BigJoeC Zealot (563) Jan 22, 2011 New Jersey

    I did the calculation excel sheet from the link above in another post. The calculation said that for a 15.5" diameter pot it was 2 ish gals per hour. I just put in what it said and I did check the hourly box.
     
  4. BigJoeC

    BigJoeC Zealot (563) Jan 22, 2011 New Jersey


    I have done about 10 full boils with extract but never measured the boil off or anything.
     
  5. mnstorm99

    mnstorm99 Initiate (0) May 11, 2007 Minnesota

    Sure, my other thought was hop utilization but you probably are close on that measurement.
     
  6. Applecrew135

    Applecrew135 Crusader (431) Jul 18, 2012 Pennsylvania

    I recommend next time you measure your boil off. It will help you dial in your process better. Knowing your pre-boil gravity and volume will help you in the long run by giving you a handle on your efficiency.
     
  7. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    That boil-off is too high. I get a good rolling boil and mine is more like 1-1.2 gallons/hour.

    The loss to dead space, trub, loss to chiller etc, well that's kinda dependent on your system. I lose some to trub and hops, but currently I have almost no dead space at all. The loss to hops is the most significant loss to me, trub is not much and dead space none. Hops loss is pretty pronounced tho, especially as the hop levels go up and also more if you use leaf.

    I like your new recipe. Remember you can only take so much advice before you just have to brew it. Worst case, you'll have made beer, and it won't be perfect, but you'll drink it all anyway. Take notes for next time and adjust accordingly. Best case, you'll have made something fantastic. Usually the true results are somewhere in between these extremes. But nobody ever came up with the next beer sensation by following someone else's recipe.

    Your kettle ain't too small. I use a turkey fryer with an 8 gallon pot and it's plenty big enough. You're not going to boil off 2 gallons per hour.
     
  8. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    Something like this. You can use beersmith's number, but you may have to adjust it in subsequent batches.
     
  9. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    Please pardon the interuption...

    Your first AG recipe should be one that's tried and true.
    No free-styling just yet.
    Just sayin'.

    ---
    Also sayin' it's
    Your beer do whatcha wanna
    Do Homebrew Haiku
     
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  10. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    Beersmith says "Woo Hoo"
    but when you are young and new,
    homebrew tried and true :rolling_eyes:
     
  11. BigJoeC

    BigJoeC Zealot (563) Jan 22, 2011 New Jersey

    I appreciate it. I actually just found out that you shouldn't boil with the darn lid on. HAHA
     
  12. BigJoeC

    BigJoeC Zealot (563) Jan 22, 2011 New Jersey

    Perfect!

    Does anyone have a great Amber Ale AG recipe they recommend that is tried and true? If so, I'd love to try it myself.

    Thanks for all the thoughts. Soon I'll know enough to post answers to questions as well. HAHA
     
  13. BigJoeC

    BigJoeC Zealot (563) Jan 22, 2011 New Jersey

    Just making it so I get emails with responses.
     
  14. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    shortly yours will be tried and true.

    yeah, boil with the lid off. you may live tho, don't panic yet.
     
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