Clarity Ferm by White Labs

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  1. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    For under 3 USD..."Clarity Ferm is an enzyme that is effective at preventing chill haze. It increases shelf-life and product consistency, does not alter beer flavor or aroma, and has no effect on head retention."

    http://www.whitelabs.com/other-products/wln4000-clarity-ferm

    Anyone use this product?
     
  2. Agold

    Agold Maven (1,287) Mar 13, 2010 Pennsylvania

    got a free sample, but haven't used it yet. looks like a great product though if it does what it says.
     
  3. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    Doesn't Whirlfloc do this?
     
  4. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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  5. kjyost

    kjyost Initiate (0) May 4, 2008 Canada (MB)

    Is this the product that can make beer "safe" for people with gluten sensitivities?
     
  6. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    "In addition to eliminating chill haze, Clarity-Ferm significantly reduces the gluten content in beers made with barley and wheat. A Clarity-Ferm treated beer made from barley or wheat usually tests below 20 ppm of gluten, the current international standard for gluten free. White Labs offers gluten testing for beers, this test will allow brewers to know the gluten level of the beers it produces, but brewers are not allowed to use this value on their labels until the FDA completes its validation.
    The TTB has issued interim labeling guidelines for beers made with gluten containing grains, and it states:
    "TTB will allow use of the statement 'Processed or Treated or Crafted to remove gluten,' together with a qualifying statement to inform consumers that: (1) the product was made from a grain that contains gluten; (2) there is currently no valid test to verify the gluten content of fermented products; and (3) the finished product may contain gluten."

    TLDR: Probable with wheat and barley. Does rye, rice, corn etc have gluten in it?
     
  7. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Yes for rye.
    No for corn and rice.
     
  8. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    But isn’t “break materials” to large measure proteins? If Irish Moss/Whirlfloc aid in settling break material (proteins) doesn’t that settle the chill haze proteins?

    I solely use rehydrated Irish Moss in my homebrewing and I have never had a batch of homebrewed beer that suffered from chill haze.

    Cheers!
     
  9. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    I think Irish moss helps, but remember that you still have proteins in the beer that give body and form the head on the beer and can react wiyh the polyphenols and cause haze. Lagering at cold temps helps the beer be clear.
     
  10. clearbrew

    clearbrew Initiate (0) Nov 3, 2009 Louisiana

    I've never used it. I would like to know what is in it before I use it.
     
  11. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    “ ..but remember that you still have proteins in the beer that give body and form the head on the beer and can react with the polyphenols and cause haze.” Well, FWIW after 312 batches of beer that has never happened to me. Rehydrated Irish Moss ‘works’ for me.

    I received a free vial of Clarity Ferm at the NHC in Philly, I am reserving that vial to maybe make a gluten reduced beer someday (my wife has a friend whose son is gluten intolerant).

    Cheers!
     
  12. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    The malt used has an influence, as does procedue. I have had some beers that got knocked for chill haze in comps.

    Gluten is a protein BTW.
     
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  13. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    “The malt used has an influence, as does procedure” Very good points!

    Cheers!
     
  14. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    A response from White Labs:

    To whom it may concern:
    I am looking at one of your products, WLN4000 Clarity-Ferm, and I am wondering if this product will make beer more digestible for my friend with a gluten allergy. Am I reading into this correctly that this effectively removes gluten from beer?
    Thanks for the clarity on the Clarity Ferm. Sorry for the pun.
    Sincerely,
    Chris




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    Hi Chris,
    It's true that the Clarity Ferm enzyme seems to make beer safe for people with gluten intolerance to drink, but different people have different levels of sensitivity so start with a small amount of beer to see if they react, and if not then you can increase the amount until you're sure. I'd hate for someone to get sick over a beer, but so far I have had very good experience with it and have heard many stories of it working for other brewers, professional as well as home brewers.
    Cheers!
     
  15. MLucky

    MLucky Initiate (0) Jul 31, 2010 California

    [Grumpy old man voice]:

    In my day, we couldn't just dump some additive in the carboy if we wanted clear beer. You had to work at it. If you had chill haze, you had to address the problems in your brewing process that were causing it. You kids have it too easy. Now get off my lawn!
     
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  16. dbc5

    dbc5 Savant (1,117) Jun 18, 2009 Arizona

    I dose every single one of my beers with Clarity Ferm due to my girlfriend's Celiac disease. Those beers have turned out great and both she and at least 2 other individuals with gluten issues have consumed multiple bottles in a session without issue. I primarily use CF for the gluten reduction properties, but I will say that my beers clear more quickly in the bottle since using the product. I've also noticed that it reduces the amount of krausen produced during my fermentations.
     
  17. sjverla

    sjverla Initiate (0) Dec 1, 2008 Massachusetts

    Would you say it affects the flavor at all? I would imagine that if you're putting it in every batch, the impact is negligible, but....
     
  18. dbc5

    dbc5 Savant (1,117) Jun 18, 2009 Arizona

    From memory alone, there have been no perceptible differences in the final product since discovering Clarity Ferm. That said, I haven't split a batch to do a specific comparison. If memory serves, someone over on HBT may have done that experiment.
     
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  19. MCBanjoMike

    MCBanjoMike Initiate (0) Aug 7, 2014 Canada (QC)

    I have a friend who is severely allergic to gluten, and I've been thinking about brewing a batch with Clarity Ferm to see if he could tolerate the results. For people who've done this before, did you have to change anything about your brewing process? I'm assuming all the gluten will fall to the bottom of the fermenter, at which point you'd need to be pretty careful about not picking up any trub when you transfer to keg or bottling bucket.
     
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