Losing one's taste for Belgians

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  1. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    When I first got into craft I loved Belgians. Saisons in particular were my favorite style. I would routinely buy bottles of Chimay Red, White and Blue and would order pints of Delirium Tremens. I about two years ago I was even able to get my hands on a bottle of Westy 12 too. I bought a bottle of Rochefort 10, Chimay Blue and Le Trappe Quad in hopes of doing a fun blind Trappist Quad tasting when I had the right folks around.

    About a year ago however, my interest in Belgian beers started to fade. I found myself ordering less and less of them. Then my friends and I went to the Belgian Beer Fest in Boston. It pushed me over the edge. It was so many Belgians in one day. Great fest (actually awesome fest!), but all Belgians all day was a lot for me to handle.

    As of today, I have zero interest in Belgians. I breeze right past the Belgian section of every bottle shop I go to and the minute I read a beer description that mentions Belgian yeast I put it down. Truthfully, I don't know if it's the yeast I have lost interest in or not. When I think of Belgians my first reaction is that they are too sweet. I don't know what my gripe is with them really....

    I am curious if this has happened to anyone else with Belgians? Did your desire for them come back?

    During this same time, I should add, that my desire for lagers, especially crisp and clean lagers like Czech Pils and Helles/Maibock has become insatiable. Porters, Kolsch and IPA's/DIPA's are still well loved by me, that hasn't changed, but the desire for traditional style lagers rages. My enjoyment of Heffs has creeped back (was previously pretty dormant).

    Anyway, just curious if you've gone through similar taste preference changes (or any taste preference changes for that matter). I know tastes change over time, and some things come back (case in point heffs with me), but as of right now, I can't see a day when I am going to actively search out a pint of anything Belgian.

    PS: I still have the bottles of Westy, Rochefort, Chimay and Le Trappe. They are all about two years old now. Looks like I'll be doing an "aged Trappist Quad tasting" at some point, ha!

    Salute!
     
  2. Derranged

    Derranged Initiate (0) Mar 7, 2010 New York

    These days I don't have a particular "taste" for anything. I'm kind of all over; Belgians, stouts, hefs, bocks, cheap high octane lager, (palatable) adjunct lagers, etc.

    Although in the past I have gone through what you are going through. Nothing to do but just go with the flow. You'll make your way back to Belgium some day.
     
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  3. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Jesse, I homebrew many batches of Belgian beer. In the past 12 months it has been 7 batches (Dubbels, Saisons, BSDA, Wit, etc.). I have been drinking Belgian Ales since I first had Duvel in Brussels on a business trip (which was a very long time ago). I personally have never lost my taste for Belgian Ales and I have in fact increased them; the BSDA I recently brewed was my first BSDA. I have made two batches of Belgian Ale that I Brett’ed over the past two years.

    It may very well be that you will reacquire your taste for Belgian Ales but I personally cannot conceive of ever losing a taste for these elixirs.

    Look on the bright side, as a person who used to buy Belgian beers you will now save a lot of money!

    Cheers!
     
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  4. geocool

    geocool Savant (1,233) Jun 21, 2006 Massachusetts

    The Belgians will wait for you to come back to them, which I'm sure you will.
     
  5. RochefortChris

    RochefortChris Grand Pooh-Bah (3,271) Oct 2, 2012 North Carolina
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    Belgian beers are my favorite but from time to time I bottom out and have to take a break. That certain sweetness they have as well as other classic flavor profiles get old so I occasionally take a break from them. I know this sounds like they're all I drink which they most certainly are not but, I'm very partial to them. As a matter of fact, this happens with a lot of styles for me. I drink and appreciate every style of beer (even light lagers that are well made) and I'll need to take a break from a style every now and then but when I finally come back to it, it's very welcoming. In fact now I've hit the Belgian ceiling again as well as stouts but I know that they're still awesome styles, I just need a break.
     
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  6. Stugotzo

    Stugotzo Initiate (0) Jun 13, 2012 Florida

    I'm going through a similar transition as well. But, I haven't "lost a taste" for the Belgians. It's more of a seasonal thing for me right now.

    In Florida, where we don't really have a "winter", and it's insanely hot for 5 month of the year (May 1 - Sept 30), I go for the IPAs, Double IPAs, and some German styles (Hefes mostly) during the hottest period, like now.

    Also, the Belgian prices have gone up ~ 20% over the past year. The prices were already high. But, with the recent uptick, and so many affordable great American beers available, I've severely cut down on my Belgian intake.

    I haven't exactly lost a taste for them... it's that my financial outlook is better when drinking less of them.

    Cheers!
     
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  7. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    If I lived in that kind of heat I'd walk around with a double beer-can helmet with Hotter than Helles from Cigar City in it constantly.
     
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  8. RichardMNixon

    RichardMNixon Maven (1,431) Jun 24, 2012 Pennsylvania

    The yeast notes have never been a strong selling point for me. I'm not a fan of Duvel and "Belgian IPA" is one of the easiest styles for me to outright ignore.
    I still like the darker Belgian styles, and tripels are growing on me somehow. And it's hard to turn down Belgian sours...
     
  9. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    I go in and out with the styles I love, but I can't imagine never liking any of them again.

    "Belgians" covers so much ground, as does "Belgian Yeast" I wonder what common thread you find between the tart and tangy pales and the sweet, thick, fruity BSDA's? To me Belgians also includes Saisons, Gueuzes, Flanders style sours. Do you mean to say you don't like any? Perhaps it is merely the thick sweet styles you have begun not to like?
     
  10. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    You're right, Belgian yeast is a broad term. It may indeed be only the thick, sweet styles. I have never gotten into the sours/gueuze. I have tried a few and while I could appreciate them, they weren't something I was interested in revisiting at the time. Perhaps it's time to give them another chance.

    My taste in food has strayed far away from sweetness as well. When I see people eating sweet stuff for breakfast, like waffles with fruit and whipped cream I want to puke. I'll take eggs with hot sauce all day. Even desert's starting to disappear from my life. Don't get me wrong, I love a well made cannoli, but I much prefer it when it's not overly sweet. My wife laughs at me when we have the money to got a nice French restaurant and for desert I get a cheese plate with some stinky and salty options.

    I am actually interested in trying that "session saison" Victory put out. Is it called Swing? I can't remember. Anyway, a low ABV Belgian is bound to have less sweetness. If I liked that brew then perhaps it's not the yeast at all, it's the sweetness. Are there other low abv, dry or not-so-sweet Belgians that are widely available?
     
  11. MCain04

    MCain04 Initiate (0) Jan 3, 2013 Texas

    Thought I was the only one! The local Belgian bar down the street got me first into exploring new and unique styles, and I'll be forever grateful. However, I very rarely drink belgians anymore, and even the word "belgian" in the beer descriptor (ie Belgian pale ale) is a turn off (doesn't taste good either). I've resigned myself to just not liking the style as much anymore compared to other styles. I think it may be less that my enjoyment of belgians has faded, but more that my appreciation of other styles has surpassed that of belgians. Just my experience!
     
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  12. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    Thanks for sharing, sounds similar to where I'm at.

    I went to Philly in February and was all jazzed up to hit Monk's Cafe. Needless to say, I didn't have much fun there. I enjoyed "Good Dog" around the corner where I had multiple pints of Edmund Fitzgerald.
     
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  13. StoutSnob40

    StoutSnob40 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,611) Jan 4, 2013 California
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    The Belgians hate you, too. Leave them all to me.
     
  14. RickS95

    RickS95 Pooh-Bah (1,764) Mar 19, 2004 Indiana
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    My favorite beer is one I haven't had yet. I'll try anything once and when I'm out on a beer run, I generally buy beer I haven't yet tasted (last night I had a grapefruit radler, hated it). On top of trying new stuff, I always keep an inventory of stuff I've already had for when company stops by or I just don't feel like rating a new beer. The majority of the beers that I buy that I've already had are Belgians. St. Bernardus Christmas Ale spoiled me and last year after Christmas I bought all 23 remaining 750 mL bottles the store had in stock. I've not yet lost a desire for Belgians.
     
  15. TheBungyo

    TheBungyo Pooh-Bah (2,037) Dec 1, 2004 Washington
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    Though I once liked bigger beers, I now have almost zero interest in them. These days, they're way too sweet for me. Like you I'd much rather drink something low in abv with a dry finish. Instead of looking for the latest barrel aged stout at bottleshops, I hit breweries and tasting rooms to drink fresh beer in the styles I enjoy or grab a growler.

    I also find myself much more impressed by a well crafted pale or bitter than a humongous barley wine. Best of all, I'm supporting my local beer scene more than ever before.
     
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  16. GABrew

    GABrew Initiate (0) May 5, 2013 Georgia

    I've experienced a similar change in tastes. I used to search out any sort of Belgian or German Hefe on all beer lists and I'd barely touch an IPA with a 10 foot pole. Over the last several months, I've done a complete 180 and have turned into a total hop-head. I still like the occasional Belgian and always keep some Rochefort 10 in my wine cooler beer cellar, but I just don't like them as much as I used to. I'm sure my preferences will continue to morph. I'm just starting to develop a taste for sours. A couple of years ago, I couldn't stand them at all. Now I'm just frustrated that Georgia doesn't produce some better IPAs! Although, I did try one from a brand new brewery (Hop Dang Digigty from Jekyll Brewing) and it was outstanding!
     
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  17. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Jesse, when it comes to alcoholic beverages the word to describe not sweet is dry. The Belgian beer style which is defined by dry is Saison. Victory Swing is a spring seasonal so you will have a hard time finding it now; maybe there are some leftovers? I enjoyed that beer.

    Below are some posts I recently made concerning Saisons:

    “There is one aspect that should be common to all Saison beers: they should be very dry since Saison yeasts are highly attenuating (they ferment almost most of the sugars and leave very few residual sugars).

    The Saison yeast strain will produce varying levels of spicy (e.g., peppery) and fruity (e.g., citrus flavors). So, depending on the yeast strain used the Saison will vary from being spice forward to citrus forward or a complex combination of both.

    A traditional Saison moderately utilizes European hops which will provide subtle flavors. If American aroma hops (e.g., Amarillo, Citra, etc.) are used the hop flavors will be more prominent.

    So, there is variety of flavors which can be evident in a Saison depending on the ingredient selection.”

    And:

    “I recently had a dry hopped Saison on draft from Brash Brewery. I am guessing that the folks at Brash are ‘interesting’ people because they select some ‘different’ names for their beers. They call their dry hopped Saison: Cold Ass Honkey. It is a tasty beer and the Amarillo hop aroma/flavor complements their Saison yeast strain very nicely. If you see this beer I would recommend that you try it.”

    Cheers!
     
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  18. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    Every word of this applies to me as well. Chasing big beers was fun at first, but now, they are just too sweet. The low ABV session stuff is what I love. A sixer of Sam Adams Noble Pils and a sixer of Long Trail Pale Ale is my idea of a great beer weekend.
     
  19. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    Thanks Jack. I read these thoughts in the other thread about Saisons. Truthfully, Saisons are too sweet. I yearn to try a saison that mirrors the original saisnons (super low abv designed to hydrate workers with no water supply, or so I've been told). Hennepin does well with it though, despite it's abv, it's dry. But I have found with most saisons they are just too sweet and heavy.
     
  20. mychalg9

    mychalg9 Pooh-Bah (2,123) Apr 8, 2010 Illinois
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    I love a good Belgian but I've noticed I am not as enthusiastic about them recently either. Which is nice because when I do actually sit down to have one it ends up being a real treat. Looking forward to Goose Island's Belgian Beer fest in a couple weeks, that event is always a good time.
     
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