Favorite Colorado IPAs?

Im a broken record when it comes to summit hops. Its a weed that needs to be eradicated. Don't like drinking onions. Don't know what hops Odell uses but there ipa is very unique imo. I will say my favorite 2.hops by far are Amarillo and citra

 

Found some fresh Racer 5 at Argonaut tonight that was bottled 8/20/13.


WOOOOOO!

 

Huh, I looked at the bombers when I was there today and they were from 7/5, guess I should have checked the sixpacks. But they also have Firestone Walker Union Jack bottled 8/21, can't go wrong with that one (other than the $11/sixpack price)

 

If you like Amarillo try to get your hands on Fremont Summer Ale, single malt single hop pale with only 2-row malt and Amarillo hops. And for Citra, Pseudo Sue from Toppling Goliath, it's an even better Zombie Dust

 

Aaron are these local beers you named?

 

Not local, Fremont is from Seattle, TG from rural Iowa. If you've noticed the talk about Kentucky Brunch lately, that's Toppling Goliath. Got both of those in trades. Pseudo Sue is definitely worth seeking out, world class, the Fremont was memorable for really showcasing Amarillo, a hop I share your affinity for

 

And that's why I homebrew. I've got an american red I will be brewing this afternoon that is chinook citra and amarillo. Copious amounts of them.

 

Bingo

 

Night of the Living Red is coming in at 66.6 ibus with 6oz of aroma and flavor hops in the boil and three ounces for dryhopping. 6% abv, 6.6lbs of munich and 6.6lbs of 2row with .6lbs carared. Just in time for halloween!

 

"FFF I'm losing interest in, all they care about is offensive bitterness, aside from Zombie & maybe Dreadnaught which are about the only slightly balanced ones." Yea what!?? That's whack man. Offensive bitterness shouldn't be used in a sentence with fff. Just cracked a bottle of the Panzer Wolf over the weekend and blew everyone away. We were sipping on everything from Zdust to Pliny, Epic Imperial to Insane Rush and the Panzer was a 10. The Rye Da Tiger, Panzer and Cow are some of the most well balanced, non offensive brews on da planet. "Slightly balanced." Hilarious!

 

Hilarious indeed. Do you even taste bro? After all those IPAs, even Arctic Panzer Wolf would taste balanced. Hop bitterness does that to a palette after 2-3 IPAs.

Arctic Panzer Wolf description straight from FFF:

 

That sounds like my red that's in the "fermentation vessel". Will dry hop with citra...and we threw in some pineapple puree for some reason

 

That seems to happen a lot. I had an extra ounce of citra and Chinook, so the brett saison took a double dryhop addition last weekend. Why? Because.

Although I disagree with your grammar, I agree with FFF not having an aggressive bittering charge. They hop the shit out of their brews, but I wouldn't call them bitter either.

 

So you're saying they only "aroma hop the shit out of their brews"?


If you hop the shit out of a brew (aside from flameout or dry-hopping which are for aroma only), you're adding bitterness, and without equal amount of malts, it dominates the flavor.

 

The later additions lend less bitterness and more flavor and aroma, not ONLY aroma. Pick up a copy of For the Love of Hops. It's a great read for homebrewers and hopophiles alike.

from http://www.mrmalty.com/late_hopping.php

Moving hops to late in the boil not only reinforces the huge hop flavor and aroma, but some brewers suggest it also results in a much smoother, less harsh bitterness.

 

Does anybody else take a 1/2 pellet of hops and stick it between their cheek and gum, just like a pinch of chewing tobbacky? Or is that just me?

 

I'm very clear on how hops work and my rebuttal was because you were inferring they hopped it up but it didn't have the same bitterness. Look you can debate the harshness of the bitterness, but you're adding IBU's unless it's flameout or dry-hopping, it's the whole reason why I said this:

Yes you get a fuller flavor of hops with late additions, but you have to add a much higher quantity of hops to get the IBU's to match the malt. Although I guarantee you FFF doesn't just do late additions, my guess is they continuous hop their IPAs. I'd love to sneak a peak at their recipes b/c the only point I'm trying to make is that they are on the higher end (if not off the chart) as to the IBU/OG ratio norm for IPAs/DIPAs.

Anyhow that's all I was trying to say, and I'm just not a fan of beers where the hops are so overwhelming that you can't detect the malts. I can take the high IBU beers so long as it's balanced. And FFF doesn't fit that list for me.

 

I can see how FFF hop bombs aren't for everyone, I was just getting at when you add hops to the kettle late you get the benefits of more flavor and aroma without adding as many IBU's. So with a late addition of 3 oz of citra you may only hit 20 IBU but have a huge hop presence. Compared to stone, i'll take FFF every time because I find the actual bitterness to be more assertive in a stone beer eventhough I don't think the stone brews are half as hoppy as what I've had from FFF. I was under the impression that you were simply stating hops = bitter no matter what, and I'm glad I was wrong. There's enough BA's who don't have a clue about how beer works...