Will be kegging for the first time tomorrow. Advice?

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  1. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

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    Went pretty well I think. Here's what I did:

    1. Sanitize
    2. Inject Co2 to make sure there are no leaks
    3. Flush with Co2
    4. Rack beer ("on top of" bourbon and vanilla)
    5. Purge O2
    6. Left Co2 on at about 8 psi.

    Here's my question...is 8 psi too high? Also, if the valve is open and you adjust out all the way on the regulator, should the gauge show 0 psi? I ask because it shows about 2 psi. My assumption is that the only way you have 0 psi moving through is if you have the Co2 tank turned off...but I don't like to make assumptions.

    Again, thanks for all the suggestions, y'all!
     
  2. utahbeerdude

    utahbeerdude Maven (1,374) May 2, 2006 Utah

    8 psi is not too high. At room temperature you won't have that much dissolved CO2. You could go a bit higher. At fridge temperature (40 to 45 F) I set my regulator at 9 to 10 psi. Here is a good chart for setting pressure (at serving temperatures).
     
  3. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,421) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    First of all, 8 psi is likely not too high, particularly at room temp. (see the chart that utahbeerdude cites).

    But I'm confused. Does the gauge show 2 or 8 psi? Which gauge are you talking about? Why do you think it's set to 8 if the gauge shows 2? Note that the gauge shows pressure, not how much CO2 is 'moving through' -- it should stay constant. FWIW, it will still show 8 (or whatever it's set to) until the pressure in the keg drops below that, regardless of whether the valve on the CO2 tank is on or off, unless you vent the gas to relieve the pressure (though check valves can change that behavior).
     
  4. MLucky

    MLucky Initiate (0) Jul 31, 2010 California

    I've hear that, too. I was very interested to hear that Fuller's does that, because I use their yeast quite a lot and I know that it flocs like a sumbitch, and I wouldn't want to crash it immediately after reaching FG. So, what's the deal?

    I think it's that commercial brewing is a very different situation. For one thing, time is money for those guys. They're looking for the fastest route to the finish line, we have no problem (or we shouldn't) with letting a finished beer sit an extra week or two to clear. Also their process is geared to exactly replicate the beer, over and over: brewing with the same OG, same grist, same mash temp, same yeast and pitch rate, same fermentation temp, etc etc, you can get pretty good at predicting exactly when to cold crash.
     
  5. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    Ah, let me clarify. The gauge is currently showing 8 psi.

    I had earlier closed the gas off from the regulator and turned the adjustment knob/screw all the way out until I couldn't turn it anymore. The gauge never dropped past 2 psi.
     
  6. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    What does the gauge say whan it's not connected to anything at all? It may just be a calibration issue.
     
  7. rmalinowski4

    rmalinowski4 Pundit (753) Oct 22, 2010 Illinois

    Is there a refief valve? There could be some Co2 trapped in the line.
     
  8. kgotcher

    kgotcher Initiate (0) Aug 5, 2005 Colorado

     
  9. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota


    Both gauges were on 0 before I attached the regulator to the tank.
     
  10. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota


    Not that I'm aware. The regulator came with zero instructions...so who knows.
     
  11. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    That would point to it not being a gauge pointer calibration thing. But I'm surprised the gauge didn't go all the way to 0 if the screw was fully 'out.' The way these things are built, turning off the gas cylinder, followed by turning the regulator screw all the way out, usually results in the pressure bleeding to 0 pretty quickly. The only thing I can think of is that the screw still had a little further to go.

    In any case, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Kegging paranoia is more productive when directed toward testing for leaks.

    BTW, the relief valve rmalinowski4 mentioned would look like a 'lever' (not the regular shutoff valve levers for each regulator body) or a 'pull ring' sticking out somewhere. From your pic, it doesn't look like yours has one.
     
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  12. poopinmybutt

    poopinmybutt Zealot (643) May 25, 2005 Nebraska


    how do you know how much to blast it with?

    i also just kegged my first beer last thursday, it went well and i already want to expand to multiple kegs - i was hoping to rack my next homebrew into a 2nd keg and then just hook it up when the currently kegged one is done. bad idea?
     
  13. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    To really figure it out how many PSIs to hit it with initially to get 'X' PSI at equilibrium would be a bitch, though I'm sure someone has the formula. In practice, I've done 50 PSI and stored at 40F and it worked well to keep everything sealed.
     
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  14. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,421) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    That's typically what I do. That kind of pressure makes it easier to check for leaks right after kegging and it also gives me a nice head start on carbonation.
     
  15. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    First Keg is tapped. It's a little under-carbed but I expect it to be perfect around Fri. or so. Thanks for the input fellas!

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  16. nickfl

    nickfl Initiate (0) Mar 7, 2006 Florida

    Or if they are draft only or brewpubs then it never gets a chance to warm up again. But I'd agree that it sounds like a bad practice, seems like a recipe for serious diacetyl issues if they were talking about crashing to arrest fermentation rather than doing it only once full attenuation is confirmed.
     
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