Homebrew for New Born

We tended to drink when the baby had his last feeding of the night. Don't get too buzzed...'cause he'll be up soon enough for more

 

If I was brewing for a newborn, I'd try to keep it to a milk stout, since they probably wouldn't like an IPA, and a barleywine would get the little one drunk to fast.

Wait... that was the question, right?

 

good point, but the way i would read this is actually as an argument for using food instead of beer or pills to get your vitamins/minerals.

 

Good Grief. Y'all are getting way to analytical. If a glass of dark beer makes the mama happy and relaxed, then it's a good thing. If she shares the beer and conversation with the papa, all the better. Sipping a beer will help her to relax...some new mothers are nervous/scared/unsure/panicked about nursing and babies pick up on that. If the mama is wound to tight, her milk won't let down properly. Yada yada yada. Enjoy the beer and the baby!

 

You know what makes me feel happy and relaxed? Knowing that my decisions about what is best for my baby are based on sound, scientific evidence, and not what some dumbass on the internet thinks about the level of self-delusion I need to attain. No offense to you personally. :-)

 

None taken. That's one of the nice things about internet forums...you can choose which dumbass to listen to.

 

I agree with this for the most part, we would be better off geting the proper nutrients from our food, but the reality is most people in western culture do not eat healthy diets and getting the needed nutrients from a pill is better than not getting them at all.

In regards to the metabolism of alcohol, the average person will metabolize 10 mL alcohol per hour regardless of the concentration in the body, ethanol is one of the few compounds which is metabolized through a zero-order process. This amount varies somewhat based on age, sex, disease state, current medications, and enzyme levels, but is close enough. So the average person will eliminate the alcohol present in a 5% ABV pint of beer in roughly 2.5 hours. [(16 oz x 29.57 mL/oz)(5 mL/100 mL)(1 hr/10 mL]= 2.37 hr = 2 hr 22 min

It is a fairly complete source but lacks cyanocobalamin (B12) which can only(?) be obtained from animal or bacterial sources. How much of the B vitamins does yeast have? I've heard this quoted many times but haven't seen any reliable sources as to whether the amount present in a beer is significant. Since ethanol breaks down thiamin (vitamin B1) and regular users of alcohol (1-2 drinks/day) are recommended to increase their thiamin intake to 50-100 mg/day, I'm interested in how the levels of B vitamins in yeast would balance with the increased need for thiamin.

 

Generally I don't listen to those people who seem to think that the present US present has clue

 

I have read & seen that statistic and fully understand it, I was just wondering why it seems that after a night of heavy drinking you don't need the 2 hours per beer to clear the alcohol. Do we just absorb it at a lower rate at a certain point? Do we delude ourselves? When we are at a certain BAC level do we process it quicker? I figure if (that once or twice a year) I drink a dozen beer in a span of three hours I should be around .30, yet I Seems to sober up in under a half day (not the full day these stats seem to indicate)

I have woken up drunk a few times when I was in college so I don't think I delude myself. Hell, I recently had to lecture my homebrew club that merely bringing food doesn't suddenly make you able to drink more beer...

 

I don't have a definitive answer to this, this is just what we were taught in pharmacokinetics. Keep in mind the study group for almost all "normal" values(150lb white male in early 20s) was medical students in the ~1950s as this is the time these fields of medicine were being developed and these values vary widely in real life.

No we don't process alcohol faster once we are at a certain BAC, at least not through our enzymes. Basically our body tries to rid itself of alcohol as fast as possible but can only process a set maximum per unit time, generally around 10 mL.

My theory is that what you and many of us have noticed is the result of increased renal excretion of alcohol as your BAC increases and increased enzyme levels.

Fact: You have increased enzyme levels in part to being male and in part to being a regular drinker. Males inherently have more alcohol dehydrogenase in their stomach lining which "jump starts" the metabolism of alcohol in comparison to a woman of the same age, size, etc.. Also regular consumption of alcohol would lead to the body creating more alcohol dehydrogenase, aldehyde dehydrogenase, and CYP2E1(the three main enzymes in alcohol metabolism) in order to combat the toxin it is encountering more frequently.

Theory: Alcohol is a small molecule so should be able to be filtered by your kidneys without having to be metabolized by your liver, so maybe as you get a higher concentration in the blood you would filter more through your kidneys since there would be a higher concentration gradient. I believe this is the mechanism of alcohol acting as a diuretic because as the alcohol concentration in the urine increases it would pull more water into the urine to help to balance the concentration gradients. Add to this that this would cause you to urinate more often and you should be eliminating some of the alcohol before it's ever metabolized.

In addition to these factors this formula pertains to BAC only, not the effects of alcohol one feels. As we consume alcohol more regularly our body becomes desensitized to its effects to some extent.

 

Its true b12 isnt in yeast, many vegetarians I know mistakenly take brewers yeast thinking it has b12 (usually lacking in their diets)

As to the amt of b-complex in the yeast, the exact value its gonna be dependent upon the yeast, but you can google brewers yeast and get a general idea of the amts

Vitamin Amt Daily value
Thiamin 1.40 mg 93%
Riboflavin 0.70 mg 41%
Niacin 5.30 mg 27%
Vitamin B6 0.60 mg 30%
Folic Acid 240.00 mcg 60%
Vitamin B12 2.00 mcg 33%
Biotin 16.00 mcg 5%
Pantothenic Acid 0.40 mg 4%

 

Hey, you're the socialist who prefers to "always look to info from across the pond." :-)

 

I think you have your numbers mixed up. Youre saying that if you have 1-2 drinks per day you should increase your b1 intake from a recommended 1.3-1.4mg/day by about 50-80x? doesnt seem right to me. Id also guess that in homebrew there is a considerable amount more yeast than in commercial beer, definitely not 1tbsp, but a decent amount

 

Those are the recommended values, mainly because it is most commonly available as a 50mg tablet. They may be somewhat excessive but it is a water-soluble vitamin so any excess will be pissed away. Here's a little more info on why regular users of alcohol need to supplement their thiamin intake if they are not eating healthily.

http://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/arh27-2/134-142.htm

http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=6015&page=58

Basically alcohol breaks down thiamin. Also alcohol inhibits thiamin absorption at normal dietary levels but not at higher levels. This is because at normal levels our body uses energy to absorb and transport thiamin but at higher levels it can occur through a passive process.

I agree with this but wouldn't recommend a beer as a source for B1.

 

This ^^^ My wife just finished with breastfeeding our daughter, and we both came across multiple reliable sources indicating that alcohol in breastmilk was similar to that in the bloodstream, in that if your body had metabolized the alcohol then there was no need to purge the breastmilk before feeding. Counter-intuitive for me, but I am a believer. Brewer's yeast also increases breast milk production FYI (dry or in liquid beer form).

 

Congrats first of all and also a close friend of mine's step dad is English and claims that when he was young( he is abou 52 now)Guinness or a local porter or stout was indeed given to new moms in the hospital after giving birth. It does help with breastfeeding and apparently in low quanity helps build strength. This can also be found on the info section of Spatens websight where research shows a Liter a day increases athletic strength and endurance.