How to Properly Address Outrageous Overpricing

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by infuturity83, Oct 20, 2013.

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  1. kzoobrew

    kzoobrew Initiate (0) May 8, 2006 Michigan


    Communication did not break down in this instance, I feel that repeated misuse of a word leads us in that direction however. We now live in a society where literally can now be defined as figuratively by a freaking dictionary. No need to continue down that path.

    As I state in later posts, I think gouging is far too strong of a word for this situation, it is overly dramatic. The connotation the word carries is really not appropriate for the reality of the situation, IMO.
     
  2. BeerGreg

    BeerGreg Savant (1,159) May 17, 2013 Illinois


    Neither. Cardinal Liquors in Palatine has it for $4.99/bottle. I laughed when they told me that. No thank you, doctor.
     
  3. ShogoKawada

    ShogoKawada Initiate (0) May 31, 2009 Pennsylvania

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  4. geocool

    geocool Savant (1,233) Jun 21, 2006 Massachusetts

    That one literally makes my head explode every time I hear it.

    I think the term "price gouging" serves a valuable purpose as it is used as a pejorative, and there really isn't a better term that can be used in its place.
    How do you feel about the term "scalping" as applied to ticket resales?
     
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  5. pakman08

    pakman08 Initiate (0) Nov 28, 2011 Illinois

    Amen, I hope the whole case goes bad. Unbelieveable
     
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  6. jdaddy

    jdaddy Initiate (0) Nov 19, 2010 Pennsylvania

    market pricing. it sells or it doesn't. pretty fucking simple.
     
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  7. MLucky

    MLucky Initiate (0) Jul 31, 2010 California

    If you really give enough of a damn, email the brewer. It might bother them enough to make a call to the retailer or pull their account. I know that Russian River has done that when people gouged for Pliny or the Younger.
     
  8. kzoobrew

    kzoobrew Initiate (0) May 8, 2006 Michigan


    I can see where you are coming from, however I do not feel that enough people use the word while maintaining the same understanding you have. I feel that far too many feel that they are a victim of an unthinkable act, that they have been wronged and mistreated. This perspective just does not benefit the community though it reaches far past this topic and is far to prevalent. Many of the problems we complain about on this site would disappear with a simple change in perspective.

    I love sports but do not frequent any forums where scalping is an oft-used term. I do not have strong feelings about the term one way or another simply because it does not present itself enough for me to care.
     
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  9. nophunk

    nophunk Zealot (673) Nov 27, 2011 Louisiana
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    You can only rely on first time beer sales so often though. I would probably never do that again unless I was in a bar, or if I was with really good friends (so not spending $30) in the middle of nowhere and it's one of our birthday's and you stumble upon a bottle and just say fuck it. That's not a sustainable business practice when like others have said more places nearby will have realistic pricing on the same items.
     
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  10. geocool

    geocool Savant (1,233) Jun 21, 2006 Massachusetts

    I think you just don't think the practice should be thought of negatively at all, and you're using this silly narrow definition of the term to bully others into seeing it your way. I say if people want to use a term that is desparaging, let them!
     
  11. kzoobrew

    kzoobrew Initiate (0) May 8, 2006 Michigan


    I think the practice should be thought of negatively, I just think over pricing is a much more appropriate term. The negative connotation is still there but the severity of the term matches the situation.

    This is just my opinion. Everyone thinks that their opinion is the best one, if they didn't they would change it. I will admit, I like a debate maybe a little more than I should but I am in no way offended by conflicting viewpoints or trying to bully someone into seeing it my way.
     
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  12. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    No biggie, I would just pass. It's gouging IMO, but high end stores sell expensive TV's, you can buy the same at Walmart much cheaper,? Fair or gouging? Guys it's a free market system, they are free to charge what they will, you either buy or you pass.
     
  13. imbrue001

    imbrue001 Zealot (673) Aug 6, 2010 Pennsylvania

    factually gouging
     
  14. pakman08

    pakman08 Initiate (0) Nov 28, 2011 Illinois

    Yes, freemarket, we get it. We are venting frustration and trying to talk about a realistic way to deal with such high prices, they are opinions that we are free to have. Free market is not an excuse for squeezing the consumer for everything one can get. If the high price was set by those that did all the work to make the product, I don't think any of us would take issue. Also tv's and beer, stretching on that. But I see where you're going.
    happy hunting
     
  15. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    If you want to revolt against the rising costs of craft beer, and gougers, we could always go back to SNPA. Wouldn't be all that painful. Let the rest rot on the shelf.
     
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  16. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,620) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    They were able to sell you $90 worth of BCBCS. Imagine people less principled than yourself - won't take many before they've sold out. We're talking BCBCS, not SNPA here - can't imagine the store had case after case of the stuff.

    The point is, is that people that feel strongly about stores pricing significantly above MSRP have to vote with their wallet every single time. Doesn't take that many "fuck its" to sustain higher pricing.

    Not picking on you - I don't have an issue with someone paying/charging this much for a sought after beer, and I don't have an issue with these types of beers being priced higher in general. I would just like it to happen at the source (brewery), rather than the stores being on the receiving end of all the extra $. But if you do feel strongly, there's only one way to go (the way the Op asked specifically not to be pointed towards)
     
  17. jmw

    jmw Initiate (0) Feb 4, 2009 North Carolina

    Most times I hear this it's from someone who wants to bend the definition of a word to suit their argument.
     
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  18. lowbit

    lowbit Initiate (0) Jul 24, 2013 Wisconsin

    Here's what's objectively wrong with outrageous overpricing:
    1. Shop way overprices beer.
    2. Because of outrageous price, nobody buys it, so beer sits on shelf.
    3. Beer goes bad.
    4. Because it's sat on the shelf so long, shop drops the beer price.
    5. Customer unknowingly purchases (now normally-priced) bad beer.
    6. Beer tastes bad, so customer won't buy that beer again, and tells friends it was bad.
    7. Sales of that beer drop because of bad word-of-mouth.
    8. Brewery loses money and is less inclined to continue producing that beer.
    This is bad for the brewery, as well as anyone who really likes that beer and wants to see it stay around (e.g. many of us here).
     
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  19. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Kinda the story of Hop Wallop.
     
  20. JimboHD2005

    JimboHD2005 Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2007 Illinois

    I ran across a similar situation earlier this year. Local store was selling hopslam for 23 a six pack. Similar type local store by my office was selling at 17. I had to at Least let home know he was 6 over and his response stated perfectly in that it'll sell regardless. The next weekend I visited the same store and all his cases were gone. While it sucks, I can't blame a business owner for overpricing beers since people desperate to get there hands on anything limited or with hype will pay the price.
     
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