How to Properly Address Outrageous Overpricing

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  1. yemenmocha

    yemenmocha Grand Pooh-Bah (4,116) Jun 18, 2002 Arizona
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    Could it be that the others were underpricing? :slight_smile:
     
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  2. STKPICR0720

    STKPICR0720 Initiate (0) Mar 16, 2011 Alabama

    Supply and Demand you as a consumer have the right to shop were ever your wallet may allow you to.If the price of an object is to high don't buy it. If more people pass on thevhigh price the price will eventually come down. Demand drives prices up. Take demand out of the equation and you have a reasonably priced good or service.
     
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  3. Pahn

    Pahn Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2009 New York

    man this thread is dead boring. does it get better on page 5 or 6?
     
    #203 Pahn, Oct 23, 2013
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  4. BeerAssassin

    BeerAssassin Initiate (0) Aug 17, 2012 Antarctica

    I'm confused, what makes you say prices are artificially low, a couple jackass breweries like the Bruery with sky high prices on everything? For crying out loud, The Alchemist makes what many consider the best brew in the world and they don't charge sky high prices. We hold the power as consumers, let's not support these unreasonable stores and breweries, I'm not saying I hope they go under, I'm saying I hope the market can force them to change their prices.
     
    #204 BeerAssassin, Oct 23, 2013
  5. Asics

    Asics Pundit (941) Jul 28, 2012 Washington

    Vote with your wallet!
     
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  6. pixieskid

    pixieskid Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2009 Germany

    Depends on the state, not sure about PA, but in DC you can legally bootleg and apparently that is about to become the case in NY.
     
    #206 pixieskid, Oct 23, 2013
  7. infuturity83

    infuturity83 Initiate (0) Sep 22, 2009 Massachusetts


    ^^THIS!!!!!
    Yes, we all get that this is a capitalistic free-market economy. I never stated nor implied that an owner should not be able to price their product however they see fit. I'm simply saying that this particular owner is essentially guaranteeing that this beer, which is extremely sought after in this area, will sit on the shelf until well past the time in which it was meant to be consumed. We all know that, when a hot beer is first released is when the rush of sales are found. This is why we are so surprised to find "shelf-turds" of high quality sitting around occasionally. This is literally the ONLY store out of the 7 or so stores I've been to since Double Dose's release a few weeks ago that has had ANY left over, nevermind sitting on the shelf.
    This entire thread was created on the premise of ideas on how to approach the issue OTHER THAN JUST WALKING AWAY!!!! In other words, ideas on who to talk to, what to say, is it even appropriate to say anything.
     
    #207 infuturity83, Oct 23, 2013
  8. infuturity83

    infuturity83 Initiate (0) Sep 22, 2009 Massachusetts


    ​
    This is exactly my point, along with another:​
    In my area, most stores that carry a decent craft selection are those stores that have been around for a long time (at least 20 years for most). Massachusetts tax and liquor laws create an atmosphere in which starting a new liquor/beer store is extremely expensive and prohibitive. ​
    When you go to a store such as this that drastically overprices their beer, these are typically the same stores that have product that WAY out of date, which customers still refuse to buy. What does this lead to? This leads to the store not making any money, which results in one of two things.​
    1) The store goes out of business, resulting in an area being deprived of a potentially excellent local business, which will most likely never be replaced due to the tax and liquor laws in the state.​
    2) The store jacks up their prices on everything else in order to try to make more money.​
    This is a vicious cycle, and "vote with your wallet" and "this is 'merica, man, deal with it" comments do nothing to address the actual issue, nor do they actually contribute to the discussion.​

     
    #208 infuturity83, Oct 23, 2013
  9. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,620) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    Six pages in and we're going back to square one?

    In that case go back, and say to the owner/manager - "for the sake of the local community, please drop the price on the Double Dose"
     
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  10. Holmes698

    Holmes698 Initiate (0) Mar 7, 2009 Pennsylvania

    In PA this is illegal. I saw Heady for $10 per can in Pittsburgh.
     
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  11. yemenmocha

    yemenmocha Grand Pooh-Bah (4,116) Jun 18, 2002 Arizona
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    What leads me to think they're artificially low.... maybe all of the examples that are selling out within days of release, or release day itself, with consumers going from store to store and buying them out? Could that possibly indicate that demand and supply intersect at a higher price? If you don't think so, I'm not sure how I could help any further with your confusion that you mentioned.
     
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  12. Brutalism_X

    Brutalism_X Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2013 Maryland

    I just don't buy anything from them. There is a place nearby that is always overpriced but I do stop by every once in a while to browse their selection (one of the biggest I know).
     
    #212 Brutalism_X, Oct 23, 2013
  13. russpowell

    russpowell Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,292) May 24, 2005 Arkansas
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    That's why passed this year, not paying $21 a sixer, the store in question & Bell's can kiss my arse
     
    #213 russpowell, Oct 23, 2013
  14. zach60614

    zach60614 Initiate (0) May 1, 2012 Illinois


    It is pretty amazing how so many people can't understand such a basic economic principle. I guess a neckbeard, art school education doesn't provide such lessons.
     
    #214 zach60614, Oct 23, 2013
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  15. geocool

    geocool Savant (1,233) Jun 21, 2006 Massachusetts

    So your premise then is that if the market will bear a higher price, then it is irresponsible to sell for anything less? If producers and retailers want their customers to have their product at an affordable price, that doesn't seem artificial to me.
     
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  16. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,620) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    But that's exactly why they are artificially low. Because producers and retailers are keeping the prices down, when for certain beers, they could easily charge a lot more.

    Give me another example of a non-essential consumable that operates this way? I really can't think of any.

    It's like baseball cards, except you (at least I do - some people on here are questionable) drink them.
     
    #216 rozzom, Oct 23, 2013
  17. geocool

    geocool Savant (1,233) Jun 21, 2006 Massachusetts

    Concert tickets.
     
    #217 geocool, Oct 23, 2013
  18. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,620) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    Sorry - just to be clear, I meant consumable in the sense that you would eat or drink it.
     
    #218 rozzom, Oct 23, 2013
  19. jmw

    jmw Initiate (0) Feb 4, 2009 North Carolina

    Your own description of this store's 'drastically overpriced' selection makes me think that this business is not really 'potentially excellent.' How do you feel about it?


    And you have gotten many suggestions along these lines. Which one are you going to use? I actually think it may be time for you to give us your opinion. What will you do in this case with this store and this beer?

    Look, the walk-away/vote-with-your-wallet response is ubiquitous. And it is probably the most effective since shop owner usually don't want customers telling them how to run their business. Those beers will sell and you know they will. Owner only has to bide his time.
    If it irks you that folks haven't followed your rules for posting in your thread, take your own advice, ignore them and proceed until you find the suggestion that supports what you have in mind anyway. Your histrionics are getting tiresome.
     
    #219 jmw, Oct 23, 2013
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  20. nophunk

    nophunk Zealot (673) Nov 27, 2011 Louisiana
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    I don't see that many fuck its sustaining craft beer stores especially with the growth in the industry and where it is headed. I'd be really surprised if there were wine stores with 100% higher prices than another store in the same town, but I don't shop for wine really so I can't say definitively.
     
    #220 nophunk, Oct 23, 2013
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