Arrogant Bastard isn't an IPA?

I guess you could call it a red IPA but it's way too malty and strong for an IPA.

 

Sucks that TJ's does not refrigerate any of the beers they sell. Pains me to see Hop Ottin', Stone IPA etc for sale warm.

 

It's hoppy, so it MUST be an IPA. It can't be a Pale Ale, or a Strong Ale or any other ale, it MUST be an IPA.

Ps: I'm referring to a guy in the Sierra Nevada thread that called SNPA an IPA because it was hoppy.

 

None of you are worthy.

 

It could pass for an IPA, but it has some malt character that could make it a strong hoppy amber ale or a red ale.

 

Nope I guess it's just the aggressiveness. But I don't get ipa when I drink it. Strong ales are pretty popular style and if you can get some ipa's and strong ales under your belt you'll see the difference. I think arrogant bastard is so good bc of its balance. Then again, many of my favorite ipa's are extremely balanced as well. Arrogant Bastard is a great ale to get ahold of nonetheless. But you'll come to find out the craft world is a lot more complex than just ipa's the same as lagers are much more than just a pilsner. Heck, I've noticed that just with American ipa's there are loads of different styles. But for me arrogant bastard is what BA classifies it as.

 

A style I do see confused a lot even amongst brewers is amber/red ales.. To me an am amber ale isn't as bulked up like most strong ales. Though I've had multiple amber/red ales lately that if I were doing the brewing would be bottled as American strong ales. But then again, I'm not brewing these ales so I really have no business picking what style it is marketed and sold as. The brewer does the brewing and we do the drinking. Everything else just doesn't matter as long as they enjoy crafting it and we enjoy drinking it

Cheers

 

BA'd

 

It's not pale, theefore it can't be an IPA.

 

Weak....like the Ukraine!

 

Tell that to the makers of black ipa's.

 

Okay, so that last bit was journalistic flourish. I didn't run immediately to the computer. I did finish my beer, and my dinner, and the after-dinner conversation with my wife - some of which included discussion of this mystery beer. Then, at some point when I had a little time, I checked BA for the story on the Double Bastard that I had finished. I just thought that it would be more interesting to embellish the way I did.

I'm relatively new to the craft scene, and to be honest, I was not at all familiar with this "strong ale" style.

The main point that I was trying to convey was that I understood where the OP was coming from as I had made the same assumption. I also thought Undercover Investigation Shutdown Ale was going to be some kind of IPA, again, because I was new to the scene and didn't know of all the various styles. Now that one I didn't like.

 

And dude black ipa is not the proper nomeclature, cascadian dark ale, please.

 

I still, if I don't know what style a certain beer is, do research on line for what the consensus is, by how its been entered into BA and elsewhere, and consider if I agree.

I have had to decide the style for at least 5 beers I've added.

To me, though, there are so many styles that overlap in such strange and impractical ways, what style a beer is labeled really doesn't matter except for having a lot of entries into brewers' competitions. Even then it only proves how well a brewer can conform to the narrowest of artificial definitions and recipes.

To me, beer styles should enhance the ability of consumers to easily know what sort of beer they are considering. 103 different styles confuses, more than helps, most potential customers IMHO.

 

Basically.

All hoppy beers are IPAs.

All non-hoppy beers are simply aged IPAs. Also known as Barleywines.

Dope

 

They are just tagging IPA on the end of beers now because it will sell more. Every black ipa I've ever had is a cascadian dark ale or a hoppy porter. Those names don't sell as well as IPAs though.

 

I guess my sarcasm wasn't evident. Next time i'll use one of these...

 

Black IPA, more specifically Black Pale Ales, have historical significance and can be traced back to the 1800's. Cascadian Dark Ale is a recent development named for a region who likes to take credit for a style they did not invent.

 

i was trying to be a jerk