JK Noble King question

Discussion in 'Southwest' started by lefty12, Oct 29, 2013.

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  1. quietdomino

    quietdomino Initiate (0) Aug 26, 2013 Texas

    I don't know about anyone else, but the suspense is killing me.:stuck_out_tongue:
     
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  2. jsboots21

    jsboots21 Initiate (0) Jan 19, 2009 Tennessee

    Have you had Prairie Hop? Wondering how it compares to that since both are reasonably available hoppy farmhouse ales.
     
  3. jesterkingbeer

    jesterkingbeer Pundit (865) Jun 28, 2010 Texas

    We've had a few fermentations finish below 1.000, such as Viking Metal. Here's the lab report:

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  4. Danielbt

    Danielbt Initiate (0) May 4, 2012 Texas

    I disagree that there's a "right one" for me.

    I've had many, many brett beers, including Cooked Stave. At some point, I stopped banging my head against the wall and accepted that I am sensitive to brett and that I don't like it. I'm not judging you for enjoying it.

    JK was just a fine brewery for me, with many non-brett, non-sour, very tasty offerings. If the way they want to take their business is to dump brett and bacteria into everything, then good for them. I won't be partaking, but I wish them well in growing their business and doing what they feel they need to to be successful.

    It's not clear to me that this is the direction they're going with everything, though, so I guess we'll find out when Jeff posts the blog he mentioned.
     
  5. HopAG

    HopAG Savant (1,137) Sep 22, 2012 Texas

    Really cool that you guys are doing funky regular stuff now.

    I would love to see how a Funky Prince would taste or a Funky Rodeo would be like!

    Dreams
     
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  6. lefty12

    lefty12 Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2010 Texas

    Ive had Prairie Hop and I felt NK was more earthy hoppy. I think PH uses Simcoe and Citra and NK is using Noble Hops(Saaz and EK Goldlings.) I thought NK had a touch of sourness. Not as much as the true sours JK makes but I could taste the mix of farmhouse yeast, brett, wild yeast, and bacteria that JK likes to use.
     
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  7. jamescain

    jamescain Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2009 Texas

    Everyone has styles they don't like. I don't like big boozy sweet beers. I just wanted to make sure we were not writing Brett off because of only a few experiences with it. There is very little known about it at this point and time and there are very few strains available for homebrewers at this time, although there are many, many strains. Out of curiosity what is it about Brett that you don't like? Sorry if you already posted that.
     
  8. jesterkingbeer

    jesterkingbeer Pundit (865) Jun 28, 2010 Texas

    This is taking me longer than I anticipated to write. Once I get the post up, I'll answer any and all questions on this thread.
     
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  9. lefty12

    lefty12 Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2010 Texas

    So, do I win anything for being the first to recognize these changes? I could always use the challenge of convincing my wife to travel to Austin two weekends in a row.
     
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  10. Danielbt

    Danielbt Initiate (0) May 4, 2012 Texas

    It's hard to put into words, but there's an acrid mustiness, that funk people love, that just over-powers all the rest of the flavors that people generally talk about. I get the barnyard, wet horse-blanket all the time, from every brett beer. I can smell it coming from a mile away.

    I have had some brett'd beer where the brett wasn't completely overwhelming, but I had to ignore it to taste the rest of the beer. It seems pointless to drink a beer for which you have to "taste around" one of the major flavor components.
     
  11. nsheehan

    nsheehan Savant (1,206) Jul 3, 2011 Texas
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    I was thinking about doing some small batches of mead to practice brewing while I read up on beer brewing more. I came across some simple recipes for 1 gal batches.
    Are there any honey substitutes you can recommend? (GF is allergic to honey.)
     
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  12. army01

    army01 Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2011 Texas

    My wife rolls her eyes every time I start filling up the sink to make the labels easier to peel. One day, I might actually do something with them....
     
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  13. EA728

    EA728 Initiate (0) Jul 17, 2010 Texas

    I get the same looks from my girlfriend. She finally got me a scrapbook to put them in, although most are sitting all over my study instead...
     
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  14. jamescain

    jamescain Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2009 Texas

    I agree which is why I stay away from certain styles as well. Just thought is ask. I have brewed a few 100% Brett beers and some strains are definitely funky, whereas, others are very clean. I want to keep experimenting with Brett fermentations since there isn't much out there on them. So far I've only tried IPAs. Some let the hops shine through and ate very fruity and a different strain pretty much ate up ask the hops and produced some ethyl acetate.

    I was just curious if you've had any Brett primary fermentations that were not intended to be funky. Most breweries that use Brett want it to be funky.
     
  15. TomTown

    TomTown Initiate (0) Feb 7, 2011 Texas

    Although this isn't an example within Jester King's catalogue, the first thing that came to my mind were these that are both fermented 100% with Brett Trois:

    http://moderntimesbeer.com/beer/special-release
     
  16. jamescain

    jamescain Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2009 Texas

  17. Heretic42

    Heretic42 Savant (1,118) Aug 31, 2011 Texas

    The Brewing Network had Chad Yakobson from Crooked Stave on last year and the qualities of different brett strains came up there as well. Pretty interesting and accessible discussion (I'm not a homebrewer); it was the first time I'd heard about brett being used in non-"funky" ways.

    I guess it's time to pick up some OG Noble King so I can do a side-by-side.
     
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  18. jesterkingbeer

    jesterkingbeer Pundit (865) Jun 28, 2010 Texas

  19. Lotekduc

    Lotekduc Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2010 Texas

    I support this change and look forward to the up coming beers.
     
  20. jamescain

    jamescain Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2009 Texas

    I support this and am happy for the change. I'm sure others wont like it but there are plenty of other options out there for clean ales.
     
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