Bayernbiere Bought and Drunk

Discussion in 'Germany' started by boddhitree, Dec 15, 2012.

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  1. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    Wouldn't it be ironic if the U.S.-inspired trader scene caught on to Schönramer and Pax Brau, and no one in Germany could get their hands on those beers anymore without chasing trucks, camping out, and/or actively participating in the tedious and cutthroat online exchanges? :wink:
     
  2. Gutes_Bier

    Gutes_Bier Maven (1,363) Jul 31, 2011 Germany

    The Boddhitree Effect!

    Seriously, though, paying 2x retail via online outlets is already tough enough for me to swallow.
     
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  3. boddhitree

    boddhitree Pooh-Bah (1,839) Apr 13, 2008 Germany
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    Trader scene? That's strange. How would those beers get out of Germany?
     
  4. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    You don't know about the trader scene here? If not, be careful what you ask for. If I had one wish, it would be to un-see everything I had ever read/seen about the beer trading game.
     
  5. boddhitree

    boddhitree Pooh-Bah (1,839) Apr 13, 2008 Germany
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    I think I've mentioned it before, but beer trading will never happen in Germany. If you can order practically everything online, why would you read with someone? It's the stupid, antiquated, assine intra & interstate alcohol laws in America that makes it necessary to trade in the USA. Basically, why can't you order online any beer from any brewer or distributor in the USA?
     
  6. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    Well, I meant that the U.S.-based traders would find a connection there and the trading would happen here.
     
  7. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    “Basically, why can't you order online any beer from any brewer or distributor in the USA?”

    Tony, you answered you own question here: “It's the stupid, antiquated, assine intra & interstate alcohol laws in America that makes it necessary to trade in the USA.” For example, my home state of PA does not permit beer to be shipped in from vendors from out of state.

    There is also the challenge that most (all?) shipping companies have rules/policies against shipping alcohol. The USPS forbids the shipping of alcoholic beverages and both UPS and FedEx have policies against shipping alcoholic beverages. Some homebrewers who ship their beers to homebrew competitions will list their package contents as being yeast samples if they are asked (required) to provide this information.

    Prost!
     
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  8. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    Anyone had the Rittmayer Bitter 42? Been seeing it pop up lately on neubierig.de and Bier aus Franken on Facebook. Looked a bit closer at the label and this caught my eye: "Die endgueltige Antwort auf die Frage nach dem wahren Pils" (rough transl: "The final answer to those asking for a true Pils"). Looks like it's 42 IBUs and 5.5% ABV. A review (in German) is available here: http://www.neubierig.de/2013-10-17/brauerei-rittmayer-bitter-42-5338.html
     
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  9. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Rittmayer Bitter 42 sure sounds tasty based upon the below review of ratebeer:

    “Thanks to bartlebier for the bottle! Pours a clear golden yellow with a nice tight white head. The smell is grain, grass, some herbal element. Taste is a nice balance between the malt sweetness and the grassy hops which ends crisp and slightly bitter. Light body, a bit oily. Carbonation is elegant. I like it.”

    One more German brewed Pilsner to add to my list of beers to try of:

    Waldhaus Ohne Filter Extra Herb
    Waldhaus Pils
    Schonramer Pils
    Dithmarscher Urtyp from Schleswig-Holstein
    Pott's Pilsener

    I tried to buy a case of Schonramer Pils at the super-store of Shangy’s but it was not to be. I found solace in purchasing a case of Golden Pheasant (my favorite European brewed Bohemian Pilsner) instead.

    Prost!
     
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  10. boddhitree

    boddhitree Pooh-Bah (1,839) Apr 13, 2008 Germany
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    You forgot Faust Pils & Kneitinger Pils
     
  11. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I will add them to the list.

    Prost!
     
  12. Gutes_Bier

    Gutes_Bier Maven (1,363) Jul 31, 2011 Germany

    Keesman is on my list, I should probably add Faust as well.
     
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  13. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Yup, Keesman is on the list as well.

    Unfortunately my numbers have not 'hit' yet.:slight_frown:

    But as the bureaucrats state: You gotta play to win!

    Prost!
     
  14. einhorn

    einhorn Savant (1,175) Nov 3, 2005 California

    That's only sort of true. The fact is simply that demand exceeds supply. But, you are correct in saying that the brewer cannot sell directly via FedEx/UPS, which is odd because the small-lot wine industry flourished through this route to market. Nobody can tell you why beer cannot be sold/shipped direct, but wine can - I suspect simply that many producers/wineries are owned by wealthy people and they have been able to change legislation accordingly.
     
  15. spartan1979

    spartan1979 Pundit (970) Dec 29, 2005 Missouri

    Keesmann and Faust were the two best Pils we had. We brought home bottles of both of those.
     
  16. danfue

    danfue Initiate (0) Sep 16, 2012 Germany

    Stumbled upon this Lebkuchen-Bier by Mönchshof/Kulmbacher today, and the first thing I had to think of, was Tony's Lebkuchen Brown Ale, he wrote about last year.
    Of course it has nothing to do with Lebkuchen, no spices or fruits or anything. It's just a kind of Dunkles Export. They just say it goes well with Lebkuchen or other typical Advents-snacks. Colorwise it actually is a brown ale, with a tad of red and gold in there. It's a pretty intense malty, somewhat sweet taste. No hops-aromas whatsoever. It's a nice drink, better than the usual Mönchshof-stuff. Labeling it as "Lebkuchen-Bier" is just marketing though.

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  17. Gutes_Bier

    Gutes_Bier Maven (1,363) Jul 31, 2011 Germany

    Is the Lebkuchen Brown Ale going to be revived for this year? Enquiring minds want to know! Also, BOO! to Mönchshof for stealing Boddhitree's beer name.
     
  18. danfue

    danfue Initiate (0) Sep 16, 2012 Germany

    They obviously know where to check the internet for new ideas. Hoards of marketing people reading beer- and homebrewing-forums all day. :wink:
     
  19. Gutes_Bier

    Gutes_Bier Maven (1,363) Jul 31, 2011 Germany

    Are you saying I need to hurry up and trademark "Stahlsturm's Sauer"?
     
  20. boddhitree

    boddhitree Pooh-Bah (1,839) Apr 13, 2008 Germany
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    T
    Thanks for asking. Yes, it was revived this year, and this time it turned pretty good. I was thinking of doing a post on it, but y'all beat me too it. I brewed it already and it's ready to drink. It tastes very good too, even somewhat like Lebkuchen. I brewed the same basic recipe, but this time I used lots of Cascade hops for lemon flavors, lactose sugars to get some sweetness, more candied orange and lemons, and all the Lebkuchen spices, which are cinnamon, cloves ,cardamom, allspice and ginger.

    How does it taste? Well, the sweetness didn't come through as much as I hoped, but that's because I went too heavy on the allspice and cardamom, I think. Those two flavors kinda overpowered everything else. In the back of the tongue, you can really taste the candied orange and lemon, sweetness almost like cake. In the back, it really tastes like a cake, but the front is almost too much in the direction of cardamom. It you taste it, it's really good but a little too "spicy," if you understand my drift. I'll brew it again next year and be more judicious with the cardamom and allspice. Nonetheless, it didnt go sour like last year's did, and it was a great experiment. I wish I could share with with y'all at the Weihnachtsmarkt (Christmas market), which will open up in less than 10'days.

    Any suggestions how to tone down the spiciness on this year's beer?

    I have to say, this is the first real attempt at this beer, and if my experience in making pumpkin pie is a guide, where this year's was the 4th year to make from scratch (out of necessity), it will only get better and better each year I try it.
     
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