So which region of America has the highest concentration of top class breweries?

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  1. lucas1801

    lucas1801 Initiate (0) Apr 5, 2012 Massachusetts

    Didn't the thread title include the words "top class breweries"? Why all this talk of total breweries as it has nothing to do with this thread? For an IPA nut the San Diego region and the VT region are tops right now, midwest has some great stouts, Northeast has more of a variety pack of styles. As long as I get good beer I could care less where it is brewed.
     
  2. digita7693

    digita7693 Initiate (0) Jan 19, 2010 Germany

    Depends on how you define region, but if we are talking top class breweries in a small area, what about Portland? Let alone the state of Oregon.

    Portland you have Cascade, HotD, Upright, Deschuttes (kind of), then a whole slew of other top notch places, lompoc, alameda, breakside, commons...
     
  3. mulder1010

    mulder1010 Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2008 Australia

    As far as accessibility I will take Colorado (Yeah, am being a homer)
    The FTC breweries and pubs are easy to get to by foot and bike.
    Same with the Boulder area, Durango and Denver CBD area. Only a 20 minute drive from Great Divide to Dry Dock.
    Probably Portland rivals Denver but taking Denver. :slight_smile:
     
  4. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    My answer is Oregon, but if our next door neighbor Vt. is added in with NY ya gotta admit we are trying for the top spot.

    Adirondack Pub & Brewery - Lake George
    C.H. Evans/Albany Pump Station - Albany
    Bacchus Brewing Co. - Dryden - NEW!
    Bandwagon Brew Pub - Ithaca
    Barrier Brewing Co. - Oceanside
    Black Forest Brew Haus & Restaurant - Farmingdale
    Black Heart Brewery - Binghamton - NEW!
    Blue Point Brewing Co. - Patchogue
    Brewery Ommegang - Cooperstown
    Brick House Brewing Co. - Patchogue
    Jonas Bronck's Beer Co. - The Bronx - NEW!
    The Bronx Brewery - The Bronx - NEW!
    Brooklyn Brewery - Brooklyn
    Brown's Brewing Co. - Troy
    Butternuts Beer & Ale Co. - Garrattsville
    Captain Lawrence Brewing - Pleasantville
    Cave Mountain Brewing - Windham
    Chatham Brewing Co. - Chatham
    Chelsea Brewing Co. - Manhattan
    Cooper's Cave Ale Co. - Glens Falls
    Cooperstown Brewing Co. - Cooperstown
    Cortland Beer Co. - Cortland
    Crossroads Brewing Co. - Athens
    Custom BrewCrafters - Honeoye Falls
    Davidson Bros. - Glens Falls
    Defiant Brewing Co. - Pearl River
    Doc's Draft Hard Ciders - Warwick
    Dundee Brewing Co. - Rochester
    Ellicottville Brewing Co. - Ellicottville
    Empire Brewing Co. - Syracuse
    Finger Lakes Beer Co. - Hammondsport - NEW!
    Fire Island Beer Co. - Fire Island
    Flying Bison Brewing Co. - Buffalo
    Gilded Otter - New Paltz
    Great Adirondack Brewing - Lake Placid
    Great South Bay Brewery - Bay Shore
    Greenport Harbor Brewery - Greenport
    John Harvard's Brew House - Lake Grove
    Heartland Brewery - Manhattan
    High Point Brewing Co. - Butler, NJ
    Horseheads Brewing Co. - Horseheads
    Hyde Park Brewing - Hyde Park
    Ithaca Beer Co. - Ithaca
    Keegan Ales - Kingston
    Keuka Brewing Co. - Hammondsport - NEW!
    Kelso of Brooklyn - Brooklyn
    Lake Placid Pub & Brewery - Lake Placid
    Landmark Beer Co. - Syracuse
    Long Ireland Brewing - Port Jefferson Station
    Market Street Brewing - Corning
    Middle Ages Brewing - Syracuse
    Naked Dove Brewing - Canandaigua
    Newburgh Brewing Co. - Newburgh - NEW!
    Olde Saratoga Brewing Co. - Saratoga Springs
    Port Jeff Brewing Co. - Port Jefferson - NEW!
    Pearl Street Grill & Brewery - Buffalo
    The Peekskill Brewery - Peekskill
    Ramapo Valley Brewing Co. - Hillburn - BREWING AGAIN!
    Roc Brewing Co. - Rochester - NEW!
    Rohrbach Brewing Co. - Rochester
    Rooster Fish Brewing Co. - Watkins Glen
    Sackets Harbor Brewing Co. - Sackets Harbor
    Saranac/Matt Brewing Co. - Utica
    Shmaltz Brewing Co. - Saratoga Spgs. & Bklyn.
    Sixpoint Craft Ales - Brooklyn
    Southampton Ales and Lagers - Southampton
    Southern Tier Brewing - Lakewood
    Spider Bite Brewing Co. - Holbrook - NEW!
    Three Heads Brewing - Rochester - NEW!
    Tundra Brewery - Stamford - NEW!
    Two Goats Brewing - Hector - NEW!
    Upstate Brewing Co. - Elmira - UNDER CONSTRUCTION
    Wagner Valley Brewing Co. - Lodi
    War Horse Brewing Co. - Geneva - NEW!
    Water Street Brewing Co. - Binghamton
     
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  5. FooFaa

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    Whichever region I happen to be drinking in at the moment is my favorite.
     
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  6. tjensen3618

    tjensen3618 Maven (1,391) Mar 23, 2008 California

    Best breweries? So Cal, no doubt.
    Best area to visit breweries is not So Cal, the distance between places, drive times, and all that you have to deal with here is not as fun as say, Portland where you walk around and can hit 15 great places over a weekend.
     
  7. evilc

    evilc Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2012 California

    San Diego, sorry, you all lose.
     
  8. greenspointexas

    greenspointexas Pooh-Bah (2,075) Jan 16, 2011 Texas
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    There are really only 4 areas in the US (speaking of larger areas) that produce top notch beer:

    West Coast
    Colorado
    Upper Midwest (From Minnesota to Ohio)
    New England/Northeast

    All 4 of these regions have badass breweries. But for concentration wise (talking distance between breweries and not even taking into account, population), California wins. To be more specific, southern California wins.

    Just my 2 cents tho
     
  9. mudbug

    mudbug Pooh-Bah (1,762) Mar 27, 2009 Oregon
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    If you want to compare apples to apples then you have to compare Colorado with only about 1/3 of California (Area AND population) in which case Colorado crushes nothing. Which is also why using the "regions" listed here (on BA) produces no useful information with respect to the "West Coast" A "region" that includes about 1/3 of the globe when you stick Alaska and Hawaii into the mix.
     
  10. AnchorBaby

    AnchorBaby Initiate (0) Oct 12, 2010 California

    Per capita yes, however the question was per region. Colorado is doing a great job regardless of how you measure it. I go there every summer and will be bringing back a major haul again this year. However, my vote goes to California based not only on quantity but also the prevalence of world class breweries whose beers are sought after by BAs everywhere. If you include Oregon in this region then it's a slam dunk, as someone already said.
     
  11. nrs207

    nrs207 Initiate (0) Sep 8, 2011 Pennsylvania

    Cali, Midwest (Chicago for GI, Michigan for Founders and Bell's, FFF, others) and possibly the north east like New England area
     
  12. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    As a former Upstater, I'd love to agree with you but I can't. It's a long way from Plattsburgh to Jamestown. NYS can be divided into at least 9 regions on it's own: Long Island (and you could probably split that in 2, it's a loong island), NYC, Catskills, Mohawk/Hudson Valley, Adirondacks, Central, Finger Lakes, Southern Tier and Western. Arguments could also be made for Tug Hill/Watertown, North Country and Thousand Islands. The beer scene in NY was decent when I moved 12 years ago and has only improved since. Cheers to the Empire state. Excelsior!
     
  13. Number45forever

    Number45forever Initiate (0) Jan 6, 2012 Vermont

    Given the above, note that the entire state of Vermont has about 500,000 people. California has, by my last count, eleventy kajillion people.

    It doesn't suck to live in Vermont.
     
  14. Number45forever

    Number45forever Initiate (0) Jan 6, 2012 Vermont

    And while typing that someone else replied with that point, stated more elegantly. Ah well.
     
  15. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Yeah it's a long way around the state, no doubt. The OP was for regions, not cities. I chose Oregon.

    I guess you are okay with Midwest as a region but somehow think Long Island, 85 mi. long, 30 mi. wide, should be 2 regions? Is Seattle a region? Or is Washington? To me Seattle is a city, Washington and Oregon both are regions. I bet if you split Washington into sub-regions with your knife there would be almost no breweries outside of the big cities. There are breweries every place here now. New fine ones opening every day

    And I was pointing to the 17 new breweries just opened on the list, as well as the total, and personally know of four local ones that haven't even made that list, and the same is true everywhere here now, upstate and downstate, we are really coming along. Vermont OTOH, has much smaller size, and many fantastic breweries, and also many new ones opening.

    I didn't say we were there, I said we were getting there. And we are. Fast.
     
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  16. rrryanc

    rrryanc Pundit (896) May 19, 2006 California

    Not to take away from you on this one, but when I was living in San Diego, I went surfing in the morning, then skiing in the evening and could have gotten in 9 holes if I hadn't been so damn worn out from all the fun. Along the way, I could have stopped and gotten growlers at The Bruery, Stone, Lost Abbey, Pizza Port (any of the 4), Green Flash, Alesmith and Ballast Point without even going out of my way to do so. Goddamn do I miss living there.
     
  17. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    It was mostly the native Upstater in me coming out. We get tired of people thinking anything North of the 5 Boroughs as being Upstate. I'd probably divide WA into 6-7 regions, Puget Sound (Olympia -Everett), Northwest (Everett - Border), Olympic Peninsula, Southwest, Cascades, and Eastern Washington (which is pretty big, you could probably slice that one up). And with over 150 breweries we have them in the cities and in small towns (Deming http://www.northforkbrewery.com/ and Odessa http://www.rockycouleebrewingco.com/ among them). I voted for Cascadia, which covers from the CA/OR border to the US/Canada border, so clearly I'm OK with large regions. Long Island sure seemed like it was more than 85 miles long when I had to drive out Riverhead/Mattituck. No doubt, my old home is making some great beer.
     
  18. Highbrow

    Highbrow Pooh-Bah (1,770) Jan 7, 2011 California
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    hmmm. last week or maybe the week before someone tried to innocently point out Pliny was finally de-throwned by some east coast IPA. and the argument began - you can set your watch to this same bullshit.

    while my west coast brethren probably should just laugh, but often tend to over react/respond to these threads, one thing seems to be a reoccurring theme, the *innocent* OPs seem to drop some lug suggesting the east coast has it better. maybe they do - long as i have great beer, the rest is irrelevant, but my guess is if it were really that good or superior, they'd be too busy enjoying it to talk about it. as OP put it, the topic is about "thinking" when it ought to be about drinking. to me what's becoming more obvious is which region has the most beards ...with bra straps.
     
  19. Pahn

    Pahn Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2009 New York

    there's a reasonable argument, i think, to make regarding the northeast "having it better" than the west coast, in that we seem to get a lot of the west coast and middle america goodies distributed to us, while the west doesn't. that said, we have some huge gaps (e.g. deschutes), and despite places like alchemist and cambridge brewing company, we're probably behind cali, oregon, and colorado when it comes to brewpubs / really small but amazing breweries.

    distro-wise, the MA / VT / CT / NY spread is probably #1 unless the big ones we lack (deschutes, bell's, three floyds, whatever) are too big a deal. world class brewery concentration-wise, i don't think california has come close to dipping below #1 since before the "craft beer boom" even really took off.
     
  20. Orca

    Orca Grand Pooh-Bah (4,710) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    I think the East/West distribution disparity is an important fact to keep in mind when talking about all this. As I understand it, the East Coast and Midwest get a lot more West Coast beers than vice versa, right? (I can probably count on the fingers of two hands the breweries that distribute in my area.) Add to that SN's future brewery in Asheville, Lagunitas in Chicago, maybe other examples I can't think of.

    So if supply follows demand, then isn't it a logical conclusion that the demand for West Coast beers in the Midwest/East Coast is higher than the demand for Midwest/East Coast beer in the West? I realize relative population density plays a role too, but I don't think that's the only factor at work.
     
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