What is the coldest you have fermented using US-05?

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  1. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    As the title states, my query is: what is the coldest you have fermented using US-05?

    The spec sheet from Fermentis for US-05 lists: “Fermentation temperature: 12-25°C (53.6-77°F) ideally 15-22°C (59-71.6°F)”
    So, it appears that this yeast is capable of ‘functioning’ all the way down to about 54°F.

    For those of you that have fermented US-05 at cool temperatures:

    · Was the primary fermentation timeframe extended? How long did it take you to reach your final gravity?
    · Did you reach your intended final gravity?
    · How did the beer taste? Any off-flavors from a cool fermentation?
    · Etc.

    I appreciate any input you have on this matter.

    Cheers!
     
  2. alanforbeer

    alanforbeer Crusader (455) Jan 29, 2011 South Carolina

    I've (unintentionally) taken it as low as 59F in an all-Columbus pale ale that I did a couple years ago. At that temp it started to throw some sulfur notes, but it cleared up after a couple of days. I recently made a blonde ale with it at 62F. That beer came out fantastic, as it displayed some of the distinct peach esters that US05 is reported to throw at the lower end of the temp range.

    I don't have my notes with me at the moment, but from what I can remember both beers finished at or near expected FG and did not have any off flavors.
     
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  3. Slatetank

    Slatetank Grand Pooh-Bah (3,713) Oct 9, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    that is very interesting...I want to try that but push it lower
     
  4. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    “I recently made a blonde ale with it at 62F. That beer came out fantastic, as it displayed some of the distinct peach esters that US05 is reported to throw at the lower end of the temp range.”

    Alan, thank for your input. How intense are the peach esters in your Blonde Ale? Did the peach flavor/aroma stay constant in your beer or did you notice a diminishment in that flavor/aroma with beer age? If your beer wasn’t a light style (light in flavor) do you think you would notice the peach flavor/aroma?

    Cheers!

    Jack
     
  5. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    I did a 10.6% Imperial Stout in 2011, fermented around 55 (001, not S05) for 2 weeks, bumped it up to the mid 60s for another 2 weeks, it is smooth, clean, and attenuated properly. Tastes great after 2 years too.
     
  6. alanforbeer

    alanforbeer Crusader (455) Jan 29, 2011 South Carolina

    The esters are distinct, but they definitely would have been overshadowed by a heavier beer. My recipe is 2-row, a little bit of vienna, some carapils, and bittered to just ~24 IBUs, if I remember correctly. The beer has been remarkably stable, with not much change in the ester profile. It really came into its own after about 3 or 4 weeks in the bottle, and I'm sad to report that I only have a couple of bombers left.
     
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  7. barfdiggs

    barfdiggs Initiate (0) Mar 22, 2011 California

    I did a big wheatwine with US-05 at 58 F for 5 days before warming up to around 62-63 F for it to finish, but didn't do a diacetyl rest. As a result, when I bottled it using a beer gun (my first time using the beer gun) I ended up having some bottles become diacetyl bombs because I didn't purge the bottles well enough and the diacetyl precursor was oxidized to diacetyl. If going cold with it, it might be good to do a d-rest near the end of primary fermentation.

    A friend has done a rye barleywine with US-05 at around 55 F (keeping it there for a week before ramping up do d-rest), and he had some sulfur issues with the beer that took a while to clear/off gas.
     
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  8. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    “As a result, when I bottled it using a beer gun (my first time using the beer gun) I ended up having some bottles become diacetyl bombs because I didn't purge the bottles well enough and the diacetyl precursor was oxidized to diacetyl.”

    Ward, I bottle condition. Do you think the bottle conditioning process will result in diacetyl free beers?

    Cheers!
     
  9. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Jack, I have often used my cellar floor as a heat sink to help with temperature control and in the winter time, when the ambient temp of my cellar can get down to ~55F, I have used the cellar floor to ferment low ester ales using US-05 and Nottingham. I don't have any of the details from these fermentations that you are requesting, but I don't recall ever having weird fermentation flaws, either.

    Nowadays, when I ferment cold, I do try to raise the temp towards the end to help with diacetyl, which can really offend me. I sent a butterscotchy pale ale back to the bar last night at the local brew pub. I just couldn't bring myself to drink it.
     
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  10. nolabrew

    nolabrew Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2010 Louisiana

    I routinely ferment IPAs at 60°F using 05. There's a nice fruitiness that I like that I believe comes from the cooler fermentation.
     
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  11. barfdiggs

    barfdiggs Initiate (0) Mar 22, 2011 California

    It will definitely help, although IIRC the oxygen scavenging during bottle conditioning isn't as high as you might think.

    I've been able to krauesen a beer in primary that had some diacetyl/precursor in it and got rid of it (added actively fermenting small starter). The easiest way to tell if diacetyl could be a problem is to do a forced diacetyl test on a small hydrometer sample after taking a reading (take beer, microwave it, cool, evaluate), and then if an issue, krausen it.
     
  12. telejunkie

    telejunkie Savant (1,107) Sep 14, 2007 Vermont

    when i've done us-05 at cooler temps I've gotten a slight peach to apricot like flavor...I wouldn't notice it too much unless I'm looking for it. Also had one butterscotch problem too when i fermented it in the mid-50s ambient. Iirc i did d-rest and it helped...
    Attenuation has never been a problem, but I always figure it will just may take a little longer to finish.
     
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