Averagely Perfect American Stout - Poll #3 - Gravity

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What should the target Final Gravity be?

Poll closed Nov 25, 2013.

  1. 1.013 FG with 1.063 OG (79% ADF)

    6 vote(s)
    7.9%

  2. 1.014 FG with 1.064 OG (78% ADF)

    2 vote(s)
    2.6%

  3. 1.015 FG with 1.065 OG (77% ADF)

    8 vote(s)
    10.5%

  4. 1.016 FG with 1.066 OG (76% ADF)

    13 vote(s)
    17.1%

  5. 1.017 FG with 1.067 OG (74% ADF)

    4 vote(s)
    5.3%

  6. 1.018 FG with 1.068 OG (73% ADF)

    21 vote(s)
    27.6%

  7. 1.019 FG with 1.069 OG (72% ADF)

    5 vote(s)
    6.6%

  8. 1.020 FG with 1.070 OG (71% ADF)

    12 vote(s)
    15.8%

  9. 1.021 FG with 1.071 OG (70% ADF)

    1 vote(s)
    1.3%

  10. 1.022 FG with 1.072 OG (69% ADF)

    4 vote(s)
    5.3%
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  1. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    With 6.5% ABV, what FG (and thus OG) do we want to target? I suggest thinking about residual sweetness, maltiness, body, and mouthfeel. Even though there is no (group) grain bill context yet, there may be one in your head. You may also want to be thinking about yeast strain and attenuation capabilities, even though there is no (group) context yet. Here is the formula I used to determine the potential FG/OG pairs.

    ABV = 131.25 x (OG - FG)

    I realize there are other formulae that would give slightly different answers. This is the one I used. But the bottom line is there are a finite number of pairs (at three decimal place rounding) that can result in a 6.5% beer and remain within the style guidelines. These are those. Because there are only 10 slots, I left out what I believe to be the least likely choices, given the style. These choices are...
    1.010 FG with 1.060 OG (83% ADF)
    1.011 FG with 1.061 OG (82% ADF)
    1.012 FG with 1.062 OG (81% ADF)
    If you want one of these, please write it in.

    When this poll is done, I will look at the data a few different ways to determine if there is a central tendency. It may or may not be as simple as a plurality would indicate. There may or may not be a runoff(s). It all depends on the data. This poll will be open for 48 hours.

    (For those who don't know what I'm talking about, see this thread about the first beer we did (and the
    bazillion ensuing polls and the final recipes)...
    http://beeradvocate.com/community/threads/the-averagely-perfect-american-ipa-project.59552/)

    If you have issues with or suggestions for methodologies used in this project, please Beer Mail me. Let's
    keep the threads themselves on topic to the question at hand (not about how you would have asked the
    question differently). Thanks!

    The Averagely Perfect American Stout Recipe so far...
    Target ABV: 6.5%
     
    #1 VikeMan, Nov 23, 2013
  2. psnydez86

    psnydez86 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2012 Pennsylvania

    I went with 1.070-1.020 as I think the Cali Lager yeast would make an awesome American Stout. Cali lager IMO enhances the malts unlike any other yeast that I've used. It maxes out at 71%adf so I made my choice going off that.
     
    #2 psnydez86, Nov 23, 2013
  3. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
    Society Pooh-Bah

    1.068-1.018 was my pick. Seemed reasonable enough and like something I'd likely hit with this style anyway.
     
    #3 AlCaponeJunior, Nov 23, 2013
  4. MADhombrewer

    MADhombrewer Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2008 Oregon

    1.070- 1.020. Thanks.
     
    #4 MADhombrewer, Nov 23, 2013
  5. OddNotion

    OddNotion Pooh-Bah (1,915) Nov 1, 2009 New Jersey
    Pooh-Bah

    I'm hoping for Irish ale yeast as it's my favorite in malty beers. I went 1.072 to 1.022 to leave a nice body and sweetness. I know that yeast can leave the beer in that range pretty easily
     
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  6. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
    Pooh-Bah

    1.068 - 1.018 seems like the sweet spot, a little bit of chewy, but easy to drink, hopefully too easy to drink :slight_smile:
     
    #6 wspscott, Nov 23, 2013
  7. utahbeerdude

    utahbeerdude Maven (1,374) May 2, 2006 Utah

    An interesting bifurcation appears to be happening: dry vs chewy (for lack of better terms on my part). If this continues it will be interesting to see how it is resolved. Further down the road it will be interesting to see how choices in ingredients and/or process will be constrained so that the FG target is reached.
     
    #7 utahbeerdude, Nov 23, 2013
  8. Marshall_ofmcap

    Marshall_ofmcap Initiate (0) Jul 17, 2013 Colorado

    it will probably be resolved by a second running (horrible pun intended, I'm sorry)

    I voted 72% but i would also be fine with RIS
     
    #8 Marshall_ofmcap, Nov 23, 2013
  9. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    1.018 FG...is where it's at.
     
    #9 JohnSnowNW, Nov 23, 2013
  10. koopa

    koopa Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2008 New Jersey

    1.018 leaped out as the right choice to me (prior to reading any of the thread replies or viewing the initial votes) so I went with it.
     
    #10 koopa, Nov 23, 2013
  11. Rayek

    Rayek Pooh-Bah (1,929) Jan 17, 2008 Colorado
    Pooh-Bah

    1.016, because it just feels right.
     
    #11 Rayek, Nov 23, 2013
  12. Tebuken

    Tebuken Initiate (0) Jun 6, 2009 Argentina

    1015 to me
     
    #12 Tebuken, Nov 23, 2013
  13. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
    Pooh-Bah

    Went with 1.016, with the understanding that my stouts always come in a couple points higher than planned. Sort of like setting your watch 10 minutes ahead.
     
    #13 pweis909, Nov 23, 2013
  14. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    Mom?
     
    #14 JohnSnowNW, Nov 23, 2013
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  15. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
    Pooh-Bah

    Sorry, you have me confused with some other bird.
     
    #15 pweis909, Nov 23, 2013
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  16. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
    Pooh-Bah

    1.070- 1.020 is my vote.

    I've got a stout that I recently did that was the same gravity, and man, I think it's right on target for a good old American stout.
     
    #16 FATC1TY, Nov 24, 2013
  17. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
    Pooh-Bah


    I love that book..
     
    #17 FATC1TY, Nov 24, 2013
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  18. MarriedAtGI

    MarriedAtGI Zealot (569) Feb 26, 2013 Illinois

    1.070-1.020. Full bodied but not too thick.
     
    #18 MarriedAtGI, Nov 24, 2013
  19. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
    Pooh-Bah

    I wondered if anyone would pick up that reference.
     
    #19 pweis909, Nov 24, 2013
  20. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    Ha, first think I thought of as well. That book is nearly worn out...my 2 year old has probably 40 books, but chooses to read the same 8 over-and-over-and-over.

    Little Blue Truck is another...*sigh*
     
    #20 JohnSnowNW, Nov 24, 2013
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