Hating one adjunct lager, but loving another?

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  1. pep

    pep Initiate (0) Jun 3, 2012 Pennsylvania

    like we of all people knows a difference between Casade and citra hops, whether a porter is baltic or not. So, its understandable that the non-light macro stuff would have difference also. It's funny that my Macro friends find it disgusting that I drink garbage beer, but I won't touch there miller lite. I think to myself "B%$ch miller like is garbage beer."

    And i do agree that there is a difference between corn and rice as adjunct. Corn is sweeter to me and makes drinking the stuff easier. Budweiser taste like muddy rice and stale water. But, for some reason Busch taste better than Bud. There was a period of time that I was craving crappy beer and over time, I felt like a crappy beer expert.

    here are some Adjunct that I would consider top ten, there are in no order.

    Genny bock/cream ale-usually 12 a case of 30 CANS, and even beer geeks enjoy them.
    High life-I can get a case for 10 bucks and doesn't taste like dirty bong water.
    Busch-When you only have 8 bucks and promised a 12 pack. But this will make you shit a nerf ball. Size and color.
    Genny-Because sometimes the beer place is out of cream ale.
    Yuengling-I do not like the lager at all (I know I know, I'm from PA go stab me in the eyes) but I do like their premium, black and tan, and cheddy.
    Natty Boh-This was my beer of choice when I was in OCMD. I wish I can get it here.
    Schlitz-Wish I can find this in cases I buy it in a heart beat. Even if there is a craft on sale.
    Extra Gold- Put that keystone light down ****ots and pick this up. A dollar cheaper and taste like "real beer"
    PBR- Not my favorite by a long shot but people for some reason gets excited when you have this in the fridge. And some of them you do not like. Enjoy nails going down your throat, you mooching bastard.
    Hamms- Its in the water. well that water must have e.coli or something. but, it reminds me of state college.
     
  2. yemenmocha

    yemenmocha Grand Pooh-Bah (4,116) Jun 18, 2002 Arizona
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    If not a fictional story, that's yet another one to add to my list of gripes over craft beer going mainstream. An 8 month old IPA is fairly recognizable vs. a fresh one.

    I'd gladly take a large wager over whether it is easier to fool the BMC brand faithful vs. the 8-month old IPA if given a large sample set of people. Easily take that wager.

    And one last thing - to make the comparison worthwhile, you'd have to have the craft drinker who is very faithful to one particular beer - someone who only drinks Founder's Centennial, for example. This person only drinks Founder's Centennial, over and over, everywhere he goes. Now pour him an Odell IPA. My money is on the guy actually noticing.
     
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  3. yemenmocha

    yemenmocha Grand Pooh-Bah (4,116) Jun 18, 2002 Arizona
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    It's just too easy. Candy from kids.
    Same
     
  4. yemenmocha

    yemenmocha Grand Pooh-Bah (4,116) Jun 18, 2002 Arizona
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    I agree with you about there being objective differences, but that is a separate point. BMC people, especially the ones that are die-hard loyal to a particular brand, tend to be people who cannot tell any difference. That's the point many of us are making. They aren't brand faithful for taste. They are brand faithful for image, self-identity, or other reasons.
     
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  5. Immortale25

    Immortale25 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,775) May 13, 2011 North Carolina
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    From what I remember when I actually would drink those beers on occasion is Coors Light is the most watery, Miller Lite has the most body and Bud Light I could never stand to drink because I swear there's some weird chemical taste in there that disgusts me but everyone says I'm crazy.

    Now, I never drink adjunct lagers...except every once in a while I'll have a Schlitz cuz that shit's awesome! Why?...I dunno :flushed: Oh yeah, and I like Narragansett. Maybe I am crazy.
     
  6. yemenmocha

    yemenmocha Grand Pooh-Bah (4,116) Jun 18, 2002 Arizona
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    There have been studies on this. The most amusing one I've read recently was between Michelob and Schlitz for a Superbowl ad back in the 1980's. Some of the conclusions from this are obvious, and hilarious. Link:

    edit: just found a summary: http://wwnorton.tumblr.com/post/40864025234/the-naked-statistics-of-the-1981-schlitz-super-bowl-blin
     
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  7. NotreDame7

    NotreDame7 Initiate (0) May 22, 2008 Illinois

    I started drinking PBR a few years ago when I had, not one, but TWO kids going to a small private Catholic college. My wallet was hurting, man! The stuff was and is very cheap. But you know what? I got to the point that I really started liking it! What I found was that the batches were not very consistent, though. Beer from one 12 pk. tasted great, beer from a different 12 pk. (different buy by date) was, uh, not so great. I guess that's the risk you run when downing the cheap stuff.
     
  8. yemenmocha

    yemenmocha Grand Pooh-Bah (4,116) Jun 18, 2002 Arizona
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    I wrote about this above with one famous example. They have done those studies and there's good reason that there aren't "Pepsi Challenge" style contests and advertising so much.

    edit: just found a summary: http://wwnorton.tumblr.com/post/40864025234/the-naked-statistics-of-the-1981-schlitz-super-bowl-blin
     
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  9. bergbrew

    bergbrew Initiate (0) Jan 12, 2004 Minnesota

    And craft beer drinkers are immune to this? I learn something new everyday on this website!
     
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  10. yemenmocha

    yemenmocha Grand Pooh-Bah (4,116) Jun 18, 2002 Arizona
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    Thanks for quoting the entire passage so people could see the context. :rolling_eyes:

    I don't think it needs to be argued for, but yes craft beer drinkers are more often choosing favorites with taste as a primary consideration, and the same is not the case with BMC faithful of a particular brand. When one can blindly switch out a different beer to one's die hard BMC favorite that is the only beer someone orders, and they don't notice it... yeah, there's something else going on besides taste.
     
  11. DougC123

    DougC123 Savant (1,186) Aug 21, 2012 Connecticut

    It has nothing to do with AALs. You could say the same thing about anything, Coke and Pepsi are both colas. They are different.
     
  12. JimKal

    JimKal Savant (1,213) Jul 31, 2011 North Carolina

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  13. bergbrew

    bergbrew Initiate (0) Jan 12, 2004 Minnesota

    You miss the point. This happens in any consumer product. However, since you happen to dislike AALs and think they are "bad" or of no "quality." you make a sweeping generalization about people who do like AALs.
     
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  14. OtherShoe2

    OtherShoe2 Initiate (0) Jul 9, 2008 Massachusetts

    Gotta admit, I had the retro Schlitz recipe this summer on a hot sunny day in front of the grill. I hope they keep it around, as that actually hit the spot. I'd have that again. Seek it out, just for the novelly of it if anything. All adjunct is definitely not alike.
     
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  15. Jake1605

    Jake1605 Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2009 Missouri

    You sound confused, and so does your palate. You like good beer, awesome.
     
  16. Kinsman

    Kinsman Maven (1,457) Aug 26, 2009 Nevada

    Understood, but the OP was asking BA users and not the generic BMC drinking public. BA's are a fickle bunch and tend to have a little more depth in their preferences than just brand loyalty.
     
  17. ZAP

    ZAP Grand Pooh-Bah (4,048) Dec 1, 2001 Minnesota
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    *Wasn't that Olympia? Hamm's is from the land of sky blue waters but I think Olympias slogan was "It's the water"..not exactly what you said but close..
     
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  18. pep

    pep Initiate (0) Jun 3, 2012 Pennsylvania

    idk i drank so much crappy beer, shit got blurry.
     
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  19. ElijahCraig69

    ElijahCraig69 Initiate (0) Jun 28, 2014 Kentucky

    Coors Can say blue moon is craft all they want its not. But for a Adjunct... Its amazing. I can't stand bud light. But i can drink Coors Light all day. And the bad thing is, i really don't like any of the ones i mentioned. I just drink beer when i want a different flavor than vodka or bourbon. when i drink beer, i like stouts that have bourbon in them. My friend is like budweiser is a mans drink. No it isn't. It tastes like piss. He says he drinks burnetts because he doesnt want to pay extra money for it. Heres the way i look at it. You are drinking beer, bourbon and vodka for the taste if you are like me. I am willing to pay good money for good quality drinks. Why would you waste your time buying shit that tastes like piss? Or burns so bad that its hard to get it down? Fireball whiskey burns, but its supposed to. i love the spiciness of it from time to time. But yeah out of crappy beers i like coors, and MGD.
     
  20. Pahn

    Pahn Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2009 New York

    definitely some of it is brand loyalty, but i'm sure some of it is zeroing in on certain elements of the beer that are for them important, for you irrelevant. it's like when people who dislike the bitterness of IPAs are confused that someone likes "grapefruity" IPAs but not "weedlike" IPAs (all they taste is bitterness so offputting that they can think only "get this shit out of my mouth").

    that said, personally they all seem pretty similar, but who knows. awhile ago someone asked why corona is good with lime, and if it's worth paying the premium for corona over keystone light or whatever bullshit AAL is cheap now. i asked with genuine curiosity: "have you ever tried putting lime in bud/keystone light? is it as good as corona?" but they never replied back. to me, they all taste like shit, but *who knows*, maybe there's a real difference for corona-with-lime lovers, and bud with lime just won't cut it.

    anyway, off to drink a barleywine.
     
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