Bourbon County Brand Stout 2013 ABV?

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  1. Quickicks

    Quickicks Initiate (0) Aug 26, 2013 North Carolina

    I've purchased a case of standard BCBS so far this year and noticed over the weekend that one of my 4-packs has a higher abv listed than the others(14.9 instead of 14.2). The bottles are clearly marked and only those 4 are different. Also noticed that the lids have a slight color variation. Same basic scheme but a noticeable difference.

    I'm fairly certain that the beers in question were purchased by a friend of mine a couple weeks back when a shop a few hours away got the first cases I knew of in the state. All others have been purchased from a store here in town, so there's an obvious batch difference.

    Anyone have any insight as to why two batches from the same year have a different ABV?

    Apologies if this has been talked about already. Please post a link.
     
  2. msubulldog25

    msubulldog25 Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2005 Oregon

  3. Quickicks

    Quickicks Initiate (0) Aug 26, 2013 North Carolina

    Thanks.

    Although that thread is locked and there still isn't any real answer as to why two batches from this year have different abv's. My post doesn't have to do with the variants.
     
  4. Infinite1

    Infinite1 Initiate (0) Jul 2, 2010 Illinois

    Either way how do you in NC end up with a case and me in IL end up empty handed
     
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  5. Quickicks

    Quickicks Initiate (0) Aug 26, 2013 North Carolina

    Even if there was a slight difference in final abv in different batches you normally wouldn't see that reflected on the label. Found it increasingly strange that the screen printing on the bottle caps were noticeably different as well. Makes me wonder if it could have been bottled in different places... like maybe a BUD plant :grimacing:
     
  6. Quickicks

    Quickicks Initiate (0) Aug 26, 2013 North Carolina

    Sadly that's the beer distribution way of the world lately. Same could be said for people in Georgia with the latest terrapin beers. Some Founders releases as well. Always amazes me to see when and where bottles land after release.

    And the only reason I got what I did was because of a nice friend and fellow BA and also a local specialty wine/beer store that nobody knows has these apparently. @ 4-pack per day per person limit and they have 3 cases :slight_smile:
     
  7. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2010 California

    If you look at the bottling dates between the 2 versions, they are months apart. I have a feeling that not all of the recently released BCBS came from the same barrels or batches.
     
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  8. stayclean

    stayclean Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2012 Wisconsin

    I bought some 4-packs at one store when they sold their allocation; a few days later my local Whole Foods started selling theirs (apparently they STILL have cases on the floor, heh) including the variants, picked up the allotted one bottle per person of coffee, barleywine, and Backyard, picked up a single BCBS because why not and noticed theirs was a 14.2% batch that was bottled around a month or so before the other BCBS I bought.
     
  9. Quickicks

    Quickicks Initiate (0) Aug 26, 2013 North Carolina

    Where are the bottling dates? Never even looked.
     
  10. beerinNV

    beerinNV Initiate (0) Jan 3, 2012 Nevada

    Score if so
     
  11. MichaelBigbone

    MichaelBigbone Initiate (0) Apr 1, 2012 California

    Sounds like you got a counterfeit!
     
  12. RWNay

    RWNay Initiate (0) Oct 7, 2010 Illinois

    I know of a shop in Elgin that has at least 10 cases of regular with no limits. PM me if you want more info
     
  13. stayclean

    stayclean Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2012 Wisconsin

    On the back.
     
  14. RangnaR

    RangnaR Initiate (0) Dec 17, 2012 California

    Does that mean we should have them listed separately for proper reviewing (BCBS14.2% and BCBS14.9%)? I would think .7% is enough of a difference to affect a change in the beer...
     
  15. Dupage25

    Dupage25 Savant (1,044) Jul 4, 2013 Antarctica

    Goose has confirmed that the reason for different caps is because they ran out of one kind. Ever notice all the different bottle caps on Stone products? Breweries just use whatever is on hand as long as it doesn't have the wrong beer on it.


    No two batches of beer are the same and that is especially true for a beer this big, as well as for any beer aged in freshly spent bourbon barrels. Yeast loses fermentation efficiency the higher the beer's gravity, so any estimate is going to be off. Add in the fact that not every barrel Goose gets has the same amount of residual whiskey left in the barrel and you can have significant variation between batches. The simple fact that of the matter is that every previous batch of BCBS probably had the wrong ABV listed. For this year's two batches, Goose briefly shipped samples off to ABINBEV's plant in St. Louis to get more accurate post-fermentation estimates for the two batches, which is why they have different alcohol contents listed. In general though, Goose usually relies on estimates.




    Besides BCBS, I hate to break the news to the unaware but there's a pretty good chance that half of all the big imperial beers you buy have an incorrect ABV listed. Most do it on pre-fermentation estimates, not exact measurements right before bottling. They might not be off by a lot, but they certainly can be.
     
  16. charlzm

    charlzm Initiate (0) Sep 3, 2007 California

    Has anyone checked the locations on the labels yet? Was BCBS processed at multiple locations this year?
     
  17. L3MI

    L3MI Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2013 Illinois

    Different bottling date=different blend of barrels. Each barrel attenuates to a different FG... Therefore the variation in ABV???

    I was told that the brewers like the 14.2% ABV bottling the best, and there is a 3rd bottling date that has a different ABV.
     
  18. Ravenacht

    Ravenacht Pundit (916) Aug 10, 2012 Florida
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    GI bombed Florida with BCBS this year and it was a good thing :slight_smile: After chasing trucks on Black Friday I also ended up with two different batch's one at 14.2 abv , the other at 14.9 abv and yes the caps were colored different on each.
     
  19. RobertColianni

    RobertColianni Pooh-Bah (1,789) Nov 4, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    My brewing partner and friend purchased our allotments in different states. I've noticed date and alcohol differences weeks ago. 14.2 (August) is far more balanced and smooth while holding back on booze whereas 14.9 (November) seems like it had a higher steeping temperature and really comes through on the bourbon much more as the body didn't gain as much consistency in malt from an effected grain bill. Had plenty of both...
     
  20. Spider889

    Spider889 Pooh-Bah (1,933) Mar 24, 2010 Ohio
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    You should be a beer judge.
    This is most likely not a fermentation nor mash temp issue but simply different blends. Only so many barrels can fit in a brite tank. Goose Island likely (and rightly so) blends to taste, not a precise alcohol target. As such it might be impossible to create such a beer at that scale that is always exactly the same. Regardless, a higher mash temp ought to increase body and decrease fermentability if anything.
     
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