Jockey Box Keg Swapping

Discussion in 'Home Bar' started by VikeMan, Dec 16, 2013.

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  1. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I've been told that the coils of a jockey box should already have beer pushed through them/in them before adding ice and water to the cooler, to prevent freezing any residual water in the lines.

    So what about when a keg kicks? Is there a potential problem with the residual 'kick' foam in the line freezing up before the next keg can be swapped in? TIA!
     
  2. DougC123

    DougC123 Savant (1,186) Aug 21, 2012 Connecticut

    I can't imagine there is much danger, it won't be idle that long at a typical jockey box type function or you would have pissed off guests.
     
  3. zero_signal

    zero_signal Initiate (0) Aug 8, 2013 New Jersey

    I don't think beer freezes until it gets down to 28f...???Jockey box isn't getting below 32f with ice and water.
     
  4. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Right. Beer freezing point is somewhere below 32F (depends on ABV). But foam is another thing, and I don't know its freezing point once its components are out of solution. Thus my question.

    That's what I'm hoping. Hopefully someone with some experience replacing kegs at festivals (or whatever) knows for sure.
     
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  5. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    correct. you will freeze your beer dead stop if you add ice before beer. everyone learns this, once.

    I have never had a problem with the coils seizing upon kicking a keg. I will go through 4 to 8 kegs a year on the jockey box. just blow out the foam, tap a new keg and go. jockey boxes are quick and easy if anything.

    I don't think it is a concern. Even after having a line kick (our box has two faucets) and leaving it overnight and iced, the coil still blows foam and can be rinsed the next day.

    Cheers.
     
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  6. ne0m00re

    ne0m00re Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2008 Ohio

    Beer foam is just liquid beer with trapped pockets of CO2; it's all still the same solution. I'd assume the freezing issue comes into play when you're both cooling the liquid near its freezing temperature and also rapidly expanding the foam, which further reduces its temperature?
     
  7. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    It's really not. It contains compounds from the beer, but it's not homogenous with the beer. Thus my question.
     
  8. IceAce

    IceAce Pooh-Bah (2,274) Jan 8, 2004 California
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    Nailed it. The fourth edition of our September beer festival featured 70+ breweries and over 125 jboxes. Not one single issue related to freezing once primed with beer.
     
  9. ne0m00re

    ne0m00re Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2008 Ohio

    What mechanism is driving the supposed phase separation between liquid and foam? Are we seeing something akin to cloud point separation for foam-stabilizing proteins?
     
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