Landing a BA Dark Lord

Apparently EVERYTHING is "infected" these days

But seriously, it will take a lot to obtain. Not sure which may be the easiest to get, maybe the Muerte versions?

 

there is a massive variance in trade values for BA dark lords even on the high end. the lesser variants (muerte '12 and '13, moscatel) can probably be landed for rare and change. port and bourbon/cognac '12 go for a bit more. then comes '11 brandy, which is slightly more yet. then you get bourbon vanilla '12 and '13, which goes for nutso values (i.e. multiple rares). then you get PVW '11 and brandy vanilla '11 which are top 50 white whale list.

of course, there's one left over, the '11 muerte. with sub-200 bottles, it's by far the rarest variant, and it's therefore an extremely situational trade; it basically only would trade to someone trying to complete a '11 horizontal which means it goes for completely ludicrous bottles.

in short, if you want a BA DL, find a generous friend, get lucky at dark lord day, or you're gonna need to trade at least rare and change. after tasting '12 vanilla though, i can't imagine it'll actually be worth what you'd give up.

edit: there's also the '06 growler, which was offered as part of a trade for dave a few months ago. don't think it happened though.

 

Has anyone done a trade for '12 BADL lately? Trying to decide if I should bother trying to put together something for it.

 

to me, '12 vanilla was not worth what i would have to give up to get one. great beer, yeah. but so. much. hype. '12 cognac muerte wasn't bad, but i would honestly rather drink a huna variant (or even the base beer).

 

Thank God I've tried BVDL twice (thanks to enormously generous BAs) and don't feel the need to try to trade for them ever again. Takes too much. But I was thinking about putting something together for the '12 Bourbon Barrel Dark Lord to open up with another BA's Murda'd Out. I'm not sure it's worth what I'd have to give up, trying to do a little research first.

 

meh, should not be to hard to land I'd imagine. I had a guy tell me I could pick a '13 Dark lord or a Darkness for 2 bottles of Prairie Pirate bomb. I recommend putting your best foot forward with what you have to offer. And maybe with a little luck, someone will step forward that does not hold beer on a damn pedestal and that just wants to trade so they can experience more. To many people have become obsessed with whales and they shit on the rest. Thoughs people miss out on a lot of quality beer and they will never know the wiser.

 

Apples and oranges.

You're referring to Dark Lord. That isn't a whale and isn't hard to trade for. This thread is about the BA Dark Lords. They are whales and take a ton of ammo to land.

 

regular dark lord and darkness are worlds different value wise than even the worst BA dark lord. your complaining about people 'obsessing about whales' doesn't change the fact that these beers are rare, expensive and desired (each variant is brewery only, under 1000 bottles (the rarest obtainable variant, 2011 de muerte, is under 200 bottles), and you need to win a raffle to purchase one) not to mention the unjustified hype built over the years from the base beer.

 

I think you should post it in the FT: ISO: Forum and see if you get any nibbles.

 

Quantity for rarity is a tough sell. While you are making a very generous offer in $ terms, I think it's a longshot to actually get done, but I hope it does. Cheers!

Mike

 

probably not going to happen man. it's not that your offer isn't "fair", it's just that people that still have BA DL probably really want them, or else they would have traded them by now (or not traded for them). In order to land one you likely need an insane amount of tough"er" beers (like the ones you listed) where it's just nonsensical, or you need some pretty heavy hitters that the owners of BA Dark Lords can't get otherwise.

As a feller who's had tried many BA Dark Lords, and who still has a few more, are they fucking awesome? yes. Are they worth emptying your cellar for? Not for the beer. If you are just after the chase/experience, more power to you, but 25 ounces of beer is only that.

 

ive also been considering trading for bvdl 13, and was thinking of doing a 1:1 for k13, maybe add some on my end. Curios on your guys thoughts

 

what would you add?

 

not sure depends on the persons preference

 

It took a bunch of iterations of trade proposals out there but in the end I ended up trading Madness & Civilization 2, Bourbon Damon, Atrial Rubicite Batch 1 and Rare in exchange for a BVDL '13 (this was right before Christmas.)

 

For me to trade a '12 vanilla, it would likely take a really nice box of Belgian gueuze. Or something like a CCK of course

 

It would take way way way more to land cck

 

this. the only BA DL even close to being in the realm of cck rarity/demand wise is the '11 muerte (or the '06 growler), but you'd be hard-pressed to make a trade involving the former.