Straub 1872 Lager

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  1. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I recently purchased a case of Straub 1872 Lager. On the top of the case it lists “Limited Release – Pre-Prohibition Style Lager”.

    On the side of the case it details:

    “The Limited Release Fall Seasonal includes typical ingredients used in the late 19th Century to produce Full Flavored, American Pale Lagers. Domestic 6-Row Malts and Flaked Corn provides a Full Body and a Bright Gold Color. Domestic and Imported Noble Hops contribute to the Pleasant Bitterness and Spice and Floral Aromas. Our Traditional Pennsylvania Lager Yeast and Cold Cellar Aging create the Refreshing, Smooth Finish.

    Malt: 6-Row and Munich
    Adjunct: Flaked Corn
    Hops: Cluster and Hallertau Mittelfruh
    Color: Gold
    ABV: 5.4%
    IBU: 30”

    On the Bottle Labels it lists:

    “Peter Straub began brewing in 1872 at a time when Pale Lagers had more color, and a more pronounced malt flavor, and were slightly hoppier than they are now. This Limited Release 1872 Lager is a tribute to our founder’s legacy”

    “Our founder Peter Straub began brewing in 1872 in the German settlement of St. Mary’s, PA. Five generations later we are proud to be one of the few remaining American legacy breweries in the country producing American Lagers.”

    I thought it would be interesting to ‘evaluate’ this beer via a comparison with another beer. Hmm, what other beer would be comparable to an 1872 Lager? How about Yuengling Traditional Lager? I recruited my wife to be a blind taster in this exercise.

    Appearance:

    Straub 1872 Lager: a nice Golden color with a fluffy white head
    Yuengling Traditional Lager: amber colored

    Aroma:

    Straub 1872 Lager: noticeable combination of malt and hop aromas; my wife stated: “pilsner smell”.
    Yuengling Traditional Lager: some caramel but also some other smell that was not pleasant.

    Taste:

    Straub 1872 Lager: a very pleasant balance of malt and hop flavors; hops flavors are very much like a combination of spice and floral flavors as listed on the case box.
    Yuengling Traditional Lager: caramel flavors dominate; not much in the way of hop flavors.

    Mouthfeel:

    Straub 1872 Lager: medium bodied
    Yuengling Traditional Lager: medium bodied

    Overall:

    Straub 1872 Lager: a tasty, balanced lager
    Yuengling Traditional Lager: the off-putting smell in the aroma detracts from enjoying this beer but the taste was ‘better’ than the aroma.

    It might be of interest that my wife refused to finish the Yuengling Traditional Lager. I finished my sample of Yuengling Traditional Lager but I did dump the remainder of her beer.:flushed:

    I very much enjoyed drinking Straub 1872 Lager. I really wish that Straub Brewery would decide to make this beer year round.

    One final thought, 1872 Lager was reminiscent to me of Anchor California Lager in that it was a very well balanced beer between the malt aroma/flavor and the hop aroma/flavor. A real genuine pleasure to drink; the German expression that applies to this beer is süffige (pleasant to drink, drinkable).

    Cheers!
     
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  2. utopiajane

    utopiajane Grand Pooh-Bah (3,982) Jun 11, 2013 New York
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    Lucky. :stuck_out_tongue:. :grinning:.
     
  3. muck1979

    muck1979 Zealot (555) Jul 3, 2005 Minnesota

    I would love to try this beer as I really enjoy well-done examples of the American lager style. Too bad it won't be anywhere near Minnesota.
     
  4. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    I'd love to give that brew a try myself. Thanks for posting Jack. By the way, what's the deal with Anchor California Lager? Is that a year round? Seasonal? One-off?

    Salute!
     
  5. Crusader

    Crusader Pooh-Bah (1,725) Feb 4, 2011 Sweden
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    Sure sounds like a genuine, bonafide CAP (Jack TM), I guess dreams do come true huh? :stuck_out_tongue: Thanks for the write up, was an interesting read. I'd be very interested in trying a beer like this from an American brewery, a beer which turns back the hands of time in a way, in reclaiming tasty, flavorful lager beer. Interesting to hear you compare it to Anchor California Lager, I've recently ordered a case of it after it became available for case orders here in the new year, and I'm excited to try it. Even though it's all malt, it's still interesting to get to try a US take on lager beer brewing.

    About the Straub 1872 I really like the fact that they didn't use any caramel malts for the beer, but instead used some Münchener malt for it. Pale lager beers brewed with a percentage of Münchener malts, which is very common with Swedish pale lager beers, can have a really nice bready character to them in my experience. The IBUs also sounds balanced for the abv and grain bill, similar to a modern German pilsner but with the 5.4% abv I would imagine that the malt is more forward than in a German pils.

    All in all it sounds like the type of beer which would be my go to if it was brewed here in Sweden, or if I lived in the US.
     
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  6. Pegli

    Pegli Initiate (0) Aug 30, 2006 Rhode Island

    Year-round in select markets...I don't think it comes to Rhody but I pick it up in Attleboro quite often - I dig it.
     
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  7. Pegli

    Pegli Initiate (0) Aug 30, 2006 Rhode Island

    Damn you Pennslyvanians and your tasty lagers !!! :wink:
    Wait a minute, my relatives are coming into town from PA...hmmmm...I need to make a phone call
     
  8. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    I really enjoyed it as well. I'm over due for a run to Yankee!
     
  9. BeerIsland

    BeerIsland Maven (1,251) Feb 9, 2003 Pennsylvania

    I had one last night and I was not impressed. It's a pleasant beer but a bit corny.
     
  10. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    “I would imagine that the malt is more forward than in a German pils.”

    Patrik, yes & no. Straub 1872 has more malt flavor/aroma than a German Pils like Warsteiner/Bitburger but it is less than Troegs Sunshine Pils or Rothaus Tannenzäpfle.

    Cheers!
     
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  11. GeddyLeeRocks

    GeddyLeeRocks Initiate (0) Oct 14, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Straub also has a limited release (Not a whale kind of release, but a short seasonal kind of release) Alt bier that is pretty tasty, and a surprisingly good dopplebock ( Strauberator)in their variety packs!
     
  12. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Interesting. I know that there is corn in that beer and I am familiar with the aspects of flaked maize from my homebrewed CAP beers but I personally do not perceive a corny taste in this beer.

    Did you have the 2013 batch of Straub 1872 Lager?

    Cheers!
     
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  13. life_is_beautiful

    life_is_beautiful Initiate (0) Dec 19, 2013 Pennsylvania

    Had this and it was delicious, sadly have only been able to find it in their variety case. Their Groundhog Alt should hit shelves very shortly, I know a distributor I frequent will have some available for their Straub tasting this Friday.
     
  14. Crusader

    Crusader Pooh-Bah (1,725) Feb 4, 2011 Sweden
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    I guess that's where the corn might come into play, giving it a lighter taste of malt compared to those last two all-malt pilsners, even though it has a higher abv, and what I'm assuming is a 12+ degrees or so plato? I noticed that Rothaus Tannenzäpfle is apparently 12.4% degrees plato with 32 IBUs, whereas Bitburger is 11.3%. Couldn't find the degrees plato for Sunshine Pils at 4.5% abv, but I guess it's possible that it's slightly over 12%, and they don't attenuate it the way a modern German pils is.
     
  15. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Pete, I do not know if you are aware of the beer retail aspects of Pennsylvania. The typical beer store is called a beer distributor and by law they only sell beer by the case. There is a special beer retail license which permits retailers to sell beer by the bottle and 4/6 packs; this license is sometimes referred to as a “Deli License”. I live in Southeastern PA and we are lucky in this area that there are a number of retailers who have Deli Licenses.

    If your relatives live near some places with a Deli License then maybe they can bring you a number of 4/6 packs as a sort of variety pack? Permit me to recommend:

    Helles: Sly Fox Helles Golden Lager (6 pack of cans)

    Pilsner: Sly Fox Pikeland Pils (6 pack of cans) [If it was summertime: Troegs Sunshine Pils]

    Doppelbock: Troegs Troegenator or Victory St. Victorious (6 pack of bottles)

    Dunkel: Sly Fox Dunkel (6 pack of cans).

    Cheers!
    Jack
     
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  16. Uniobrew31

    Uniobrew31 Pooh-Bah (1,567) Jan 16, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    Straub has beer really making an effort lately. The groundhog day seasonal Alt beer was nice as well
     
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  17. Omnium

    Omnium Initiate (0) Jan 31, 2013 Pennsylvania

    Agreed, and I hope it pays off, I got a lot of respect for Straub, and I dont ever want to see them go under.
     
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  18. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    “I guess that's where the corn might come into play, giving it a lighter taste of malt compared to those last two all-malt pilsners,...”

    Patrik, the principle reasons that the US brewers of lagers in the 1800’s for using corn as part of the grain bill was twofold. By adding corn along with the North American 6-row malt they produced a clearer beer (corn eliminated a chill have problem) and it also lightened the body of the beer a bit to create a less satiating beer (which can be a more satisfying beer to drink principally during hot summer weather).

    George Fix in his article entitled “CAP - Explorations in Pre-Prohibition American Lagers” states:

    “The primary feature that separates this beer from all-malt continental lagers is the use of flaked maize, an unmalted cereal grain. The flakes are hardly a cheap malt substitute. Indeed, they typically cost two to three times more than domestic malt, and they are even more expensive than premium imported malts. What one gets with this specialty grain is extra strength without the satiating effects of a high-gravity beer. Alcohol by itself is essentially tasteless. Nevertheless, it is a flavor carrier, enhancing the other active flavor components in a beer, as it does in this formulation. The maize also leaves a pleasant grain-like sweetness in the finished beer.”

    Cheers!
     
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  19. Feel_the_Darkness

    Feel_the_Darkness Initiate (0) Oct 17, 2012 Virginia

    Ah, this sounds great. I'd love to try it.
     
  20. pudgym29

    pudgym29 Zealot (634) Mar 14, 2009 Illinois

    I have seen Straub at solid beer shops in Cleveland, OH., so if you can get there you should be able to try it.
     
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