Serious Eats: "Ask a Cicerone: Breweries to Watch in 2014"

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  1. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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  2. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
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    Peekskill is awesome, I love it there. Higher Standard can go toe to toe with all of the DIPA big boys. They don't bottle though, so their exposure is limited.
     
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  3. markgugs

    markgugs Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New Jersey

    awesome article, thanks for posting!
     
  4. Orca

    Orca Grand Pooh-Bah (4,710) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    Count me among the non-fans of Stillwater. However, I was the fortunate recipient of a growler of Peekskill Higher Standard not too long ago and would have thought I was drinking Boneyard. Seriously good stuff. Firestone Walker is doing everything right. I've heard great things about Ale Apothecary, Societe, Jack's Abby but can't speak to them personally.

    What about Bale Breaker? I feel like they could have a break-out year in 2014 or 2015.
     
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  5. OneDropSoup

    OneDropSoup Pooh-Bah (2,213) Dec 9, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    My feelings about Stillwater are reflective of my feelings about farmhouse ales in toto: really intriguing & sexy on the shelf, actual beer is almost always a letdown. Nonetheless, I'm fascinated with them 'on paper'.
     
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  6. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado

    Whether you agree or disagree with the content, it's nice to see an article with some specific detail about why the writer believes the brewery is one to watch and not just generalized praise.
     
  7. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    I'll chime in to balance out the Stillwater comments. Cellar Door is a great beer.
     
  8. jcos

    jcos Pundit (802) Nov 23, 2009 Maryland

    Yeah I'm still confused why Stiillwater doesn't get more publicity..then again they make saisons, not Triple IPAs or 15% Imperial Stouts. So I guess that "hurts" them.
     
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  9. VAcrossr

    VAcrossr Pundit (790) Jun 12, 2009 Virginia

    I am really enjoying the Stillwater saisons. I've got a Classique can ready to hit tonight.
     
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  10. beerloverofbham

    beerloverofbham Initiate (0) Feb 18, 2013 Washington
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    @draheim I've heard similar things about Bale Breaker, and agree with your sentiments on FW. Ale Apothecary is without doubt producing some of the finest oak-aged beers I've had from the PNW, and everything I've tried from Jack's Abby, Alpine, and Jester King is solid. Allagash is fav but that might simply be my east-coast roots talking...
     
  11. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    I've also recently had a couple of Peekskill growlers, and one was very, very good, and the other blew me away (and you know I tend to be a tough grader :wink:). I agree that as Bale Breaker starts to reach out more, they'll become WA's Boneyard.
     
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    beerloverofbham Initiate (0) Feb 18, 2013 Washington
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  13. Orca

    Orca Grand Pooh-Bah (4,710) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    No way that will happen; Bale Breaker is already canning.
     
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  14. dar482

    dar482 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,063) Mar 9, 2007 New York
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    In the past couple months, been to Peekskill, Trillium, and Tired Hands. Excited to see these East Coast breweries grow.
     
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  15. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Get in touch, and I'll let ya know next time we do a tasting. There was one a couple nights ago, but I'm battling a cold right now, and didn't go. :slight_frown:
     
  16. Immortale25

    Immortale25 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,775) May 13, 2011 North Carolina
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    @beertunes As far as Stillwater goes, I'll echo zid's comment and say Cellar Door is excellent BUT it's way better on-tap than in the bottle. Also, if you've never had As Follows, that's an even better one that I've had but, once again, it was on-tap so I can't say if the bottle will be just as excellent. That being said, the best beer I've had by Stillwater was the Debauched Brunello Barrel Aged which is technically a Sahti but it's delightfully funky, tart and has hints of Brett so it's not really like a Sahti besides the fact that they use juniper bushes. Wait, I was wrong about that being the best Stillwater beer - the best is Why Can't IBU? A magnificently delicious Belgian IPA that's bursting with tropical fruit flavors and aromas interwoven with a rich Belgian yeast backdrop. Gives Le Freak a run for its money, I kid you not. Oh and that one I had in a bottle so no worries about that vs. tap. So, if you haven't had those four beers, I highly recommend you try all of them before giving up on Stillwater. Other good ones are Classique, a low-ABV saison with traces of Brett, Jaded (Import Series Vol. 3), Stateside Saison, A Saison Darkly and Folklore. In fact, the only underwhelming beer I've had by Stillwater was Existent, a not-so-great take on a black saison. I hope my long and drawn-out explanation of my Stillwater experience has been helpful.

    Oh and hey @draheim Ale Apothecary's Sahalie is great, you should try to score a bottle, and I really liked Bale Breaker's Topcutter so I wouldn't be surprised if you were right about them breaking out and expanding. Also, you too should give some more Stillwater beers a try. :slight_smile:
     
  17. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Had the Cellar Door, thought it was good, but not $8/12oz pour good. I thought the Stateside Saison was pretty good, and the Forty Faave Malt Liquor decent. Not bad brews by any means, but not so good that I'll go out of my way looking for them either.
     
  18. Immortale25

    Immortale25 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,775) May 13, 2011 North Carolina
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    Heard that. Why Can't IBU? was around $4 and Debauched was somewhere in the $5-$8 range both for single bottles but they were worth every penny IMO. If you ever see either available, I suggest you take the plunge but I admit I spend way too much money on beer.
     
  19. markgugs

    markgugs Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New Jersey

    I've read/heard great thing about this Sahalie...but is it $25/bottle good?
     
  20. wavingsnail

    wavingsnail Initiate (0) Oct 14, 2013 California

    As someone that has access to some really great California ipas, I have to give a nod to bale breaker. top cutter is God damned delicious, and I really enjoy field 41 as well.

    luckily I have a trader that lives fifteen minutes away from the brewery itself.

    also, thanks for sharing this.
     
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