Unsent extras - opinions wanted

Sounds like the type of person I wouldn't want any more beer from.

 

I feel that if "extras" are agreed upon they are no longer extra, rather a part of the deal. I refer to them as "randoms" at that point because there is a difference since they were agreed upon by both parties - even if the $ amount was not agreed, just the point that something would be included.

 

Are we seriously at the point where people are coming up with scams to get free beer and maintain trade reputation?

"Well, extras are extras, so you should never complain if you get them. I know, I'll ask for extras, then stick it to the other guy! He can't complain cause you can't expect extras, lol!"

*shakes head*

 

it sounds like he was the one that suggested extras, not you - since you both agreed that extras should be included, he should be expected to send you some beer.

 

Saying he doesn't have the finances at this moment to ship you something is understandable. Going after trades where he has to ship, aka spend money, and not get you your agreed upon "extras" is bullshit.

 

Once you specifically discuss sending extras, especially with the added "I have a couple of your wants I think" they're no longer extras, they're part of the agreed upon deal. You need to contact him and point out his inquiries for Beatification and that he needs to do the right thing to wrap this up. Personally I think the finances line is BS - it wouldn't cost much at all to ship one nice bomber or a 750 from his collection that is roughly equal to the three you sent him.

Is this bad trader list worthy? Hard to say. But if I were you at the very least I would put a "trader beware" post with his BA name in my profile so it would come up in search results if a potential trader is looking for references...even if it just says to contact you for details.

 

I'd probably just let this one go and not worry about it too much. But, if you agree on it, they're not extras and are actually part of the trade.

 

If extras are agreed upon, I think at least something should be sent , not necessarily beer, swag is acceptable, but something. Personally I would pursue a little longer .

 

As OddNotion points out, extras are beers beyond what was agreed up. If a traders says they are going to send beer X,Y and Z plus extras the expectation should be that the box includes beers X,Y and Z plus additional beers. If just X, Y and Z were provided the terms of the original agreement were not met.

Is it worth your time to worry about it? That is completely up to you. In my opinion there should still be some beer heading your way.

 

I always send extras and hope to get some. I never discuss them and I don't always get some. It's fine because they are extras so there's no obligation there. About your story though, I would expect some since you both agreed. If both parties agree on extra than they are tO be expected.

 

In the end you sent him about $7 or so worth of extras...... I'd just chalk it up to a "damn that's a bummer" and let it slide.... Assume it was an honest mistake, and just realize that him sending $7 worth of extras will cost him about $20 after shipping, and you'd be the bigger person for understanding that it's just not something you'd want to do, nor would I hold it to him.

Just be happy you were able to send a few tasty extras, and spread some good beer around. A small swing in value like that is minutia in the grand scheme of things.... if he were in a position to set up a follow up trade, he could probably go a little above and beyond on the next trade, but since he's not, I would just say "Hope your situation improves" and move along.

 

I like your point, but where did the $7 come from?

Edit: Simple math and knowledge based details in OP probably....

 

Shitty on the other guy's part if you ask me. I sometimes insist on no extras in small trades and it has worked out well this far (granted, not too far).

Also I don't really subscribe to the "extras are extras" school of thought. They are very much a part of the trade for me, just like tip is a part of the check; so I insist on finding out whether the other guy wants to do extras or not. After that they are simply extras (as in no further negotiations).

Occasionally I have found myself shorting others or getting shorted on extras. Anyone I have shorted is a regular trading partner now. I might not play in the same league as those guys but I try my best to guarantee them any desirable beer that's released in my neck of the woods.

 

You're going to make us guess about the identity of this person who we should "beware" of and you're going to wait to post his name? Doesn't that ruin the supposed point of a "trade beware" thread since you aren't alerting us now? If the goal is to protect the community, shouldn't you put his name out as soon as possible to protect us all? Or, is this just a game?

 

if you agreed on extras and none were sent, it seems like some should be owed (even though they are extras)...although at this point it kinda comes down to whether or not you want to keep chasing after 2 or 3 beers of unknown quality.

it's also possible that the trader really DID get you mixed up with someone else, and just doesnt feel like dealing with it anymore. that's still lame, but i don't see someone sacrificing their trading reputation on ripping people for extras.

 

This!

 

He's in an akward gray area on this one. If trader x is a flat out bad trader his name goes on the bad trader list and if he's not then no names are divulged. OP's inventive way of warning folks gets a nod of affirmation from me. Somebody will end up bumping this thread in a few days, the trader warning will be posted to OP's profile by then, and he saves a little face.