I've been coming up with my own recipes lately, and thought is see if the next I intend to brew is ok. Hoppy Amer. Pale Wheat - All Grain - 3 gallon batch 2# Carapils 2# Wheat 3# Pale 2-Row .25oz Chinook @60 .5oz Nelson Sauvin @10 .75oz Chinook @5 2oz Chinook dry hop @ 7 days Fermenting with 1010 Target ABV - 5.5% Target IBUs - 50 Any feedback is appreciated! Cheers!
Way too much Carapils. You'd end up with a very high final gravity and less ABV than you are expecting. (In fact, a typical american wheat beer wouldn't have any Carapils). More like 50/50 between wheat malt and 2-Row.
Beyond the Carapils topic, 2 ounces of Chinook dry hopping for a 3 gallon batch is a lot. I hope that you really, really like the aroma of Chinook. Cheers!
I've been happy with my American Wheat malt base which is 50% American Pale (or 2 row if you want), 42% Wheat Malt, 8% Flaked Wheat. I like S05 and mash fairly high (155F ish). I'd lower your IBUs and shoot for 30-40. I'm not so concerned about the quantity of hops you are using but I'd try getting Nelson and Chinook more even (1:1) towards the end of the boil and dry hop. Something like a 1/2 ounce of each at 5 and KO, then 1oz each dry hop. This isn't going to taste like the "Oberon" of American Wheats but I don't think that's what you are going for anyway. Seems like you want something with a lot of hop aroma/flavor but a wheat malt base.
In addition to swapping the carapils for more 2-row and/or wheat as mentioned above, swapping out the chinook for citra, more nelson, and a touch of centennial would put you towards a lower abv version of the pupil from societe brewing - one of my favorite beers. They use WLP001, however.
Carapils is too high, but thats been mentioned. I know you say "Hoppy Wheat" but that 50 IBU's is a bit high, and thats alot chinook for that small of a batch. Try this: 55% White Wheat Malt 38% Pale Two Row 7% Caravienne Mash around 152* Hopped to around 35-40 IBU's, and do a light dry hop. I have do this recipe before and it's a favorite. I've used Mosaic, and Centennial with some Columbus to bitter and it was a hit.
Chinook. Is a harsh hop when it comes to late kettle additions and dryhopping. I'd use the chinook for late kettle additions, maybe .5 oz at 5 min and dryhop with something a bit less harsh like centennial, amarillo, citra, cascade, or even more nelson. Even my 5 gallon ipa's couldn't hang with a 2oz chinook dryhopping, and I really like chinook.
Thanks for all the advice. With a small batch size, and a lower target ABV, I wasn't sure if just two different grains would produce enough malt complexity. I like really piny/woodsy IPAs, so I thought Chinook would be a good choice. I was thinking that 2 OZ might be a lot though for dry hopping. As for the IBUs, some similar styles I've had with around 40, at least to me, didn't seem over the top, so I didn't think 50 would be. I basically added the Nelson because I'll have some left over from the Saison I'm doing lol. As a hophead, I guess I just kinda figured there's no such thing as too much hops. Lol Thanks again for all the input. I'm still trying to familiarize myself with all the grains and hops, so I'll take all this info and do some tweeking! Cheers!
To be hoenst i would skip the carapils You never really need them, especially when you have wheat in there. It should be a good hoppy pale ale/ ipa
Since I could have ended up screwing my hoppy wheat had I have brewed as is, I'm curious if the Saison I brewed last week will share it's potential shortcomings. Here's the recipe: 3 gallon AG batch - French Saison w/ Kumquats 5# Belgian Pale Ale 3# Belgian Pilsner 1# Belgian Caramel Pils ~1# Kumquats, halved, squeezed juice and tossed in boil @ 15 .25oz Nelson @ 60 .75oz Nelson @ 5 1oz Nelson @ 7 days dry hop Fermenting with 3711 6.8 ABV target 30 IBUS target Am I doomed or will it turn out ok? Cheers!
Once again, crystal malts are not typical in this style either. They will work in direct opposition to the Saison yeast strain that's trying to give you a dry beer, which is a feature of the style. In general, I'd recommend not ever adding crystal malts to a recipe unless you know specifically what you're trying to achieve with them. It will be beer. Maybe good beer. But it won't be to style.
La Cumbre Elevated IPA uses Nelson, Chinook, and Columbus for dry hops. GABF gold winner. I really liked this beer and usually I don't like beers with Nelson.
There hasn't been any Columbus in the dry hop of Elevated for over a year. Right now it's Simcoe, Mosaic, Centennial, Chinook, J-17, and Nelson Sauvin.
I was going on the recipe in the new homebrew book, by Michael Agnew, Denny Conn et. al. Page 20-21. Was at your taproom Dec 2012. Good beers Jeff. Thanks for the info on what you are doing today. Might try something like Elevated someday soon. J-17? Might be hard to find.
Pretty well impossible. Its a South African hop that a buddy of mine is importing from SAB. Didn't know that they got that published already. I'll have to pick up a copy.
