Logsdon Peche n Brett questions

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  1. maltmaster420

    maltmaster420 Initiate (0) Aug 17, 2005 Oregon

    Deschutes, Cascade, and Rogue are all conveniently located and open just as late, if not later than we are. :wink:

    That said, you're generally correct...
     
  2. maltmaster420

    maltmaster420 Initiate (0) Aug 17, 2005 Oregon

    The "regular" beers are $9-10, and the one-offs have ranged from $11-14.
     
  3. Lansman

    Lansman Savant (1,116) Mar 19, 2011 Missouri
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    New Glarus in Wisconsin always prices their bottles for higher than retail price for exactly the reasons many have already given. They want stores to support their product and they don't want to undercut them, otherwise less than scrupulous types may just buy from the brewery (Three Floyds continues to battle this today) and resell illegally without going through regular distribution channels.

    EDIT: At New Glarus though, the markup per bottle isn't in the 30%+ range, but one can make the argument that PnB at $18 is a steal given that demand might justify Cascade-like prices.
     
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  4. TheeWalrusHunter

    TheeWalrusHunter Initiate (0) Aug 23, 2013 Oregon

    Sorry, I mean quantity. Those numbers are pretty even with what The Commons sells beer for at their brewery, if not more expensive. Does that hurt, or even stagnate, your ability to sell their beer?
     
  5. nattomoto

    nattomoto Initiate (0) Jan 3, 2014 Oregon

    The Commons bottles are more expensive at the brewery by ~$1+.

    The wine industry is notorious for this pricing scheme. And beer pricing is similar.
     
  6. SMITHAND

    SMITHAND Initiate (0) Apr 18, 2013 Oregon

    UPDATE: Just bought a bottle (1 per person limit) at Belmont. $20 cash, $21 card. They have three cases left. Imperial Bottle Shop is officially out. Dont know about Beer Mongers.
     
  7. Lazerlobe

    Lazerlobe Pundit (751) Mar 1, 2010 Washington

    Oh, if PTR didn't change, I'm at a loss.
     
  8. TheeWalrusHunter

    TheeWalrusHunter Initiate (0) Aug 23, 2013 Oregon

    I don't think so. If I remember correctly, The Commons is cheaper.
     
  9. TheeWalrusHunter

    TheeWalrusHunter Initiate (0) Aug 23, 2013 Oregon

    THANK YOU! I was able to pick up one more bottle for my wife's birthday because of this information.

    Belmont Station must have just gotten a ton more, because there are still 3 cases left. They also didn't advertise their bottles on instagram or twitter like Beermongers or Imperial did. This probably plays into the fact that there are still some left.
     
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  10. Kurmaraja

    Kurmaraja Initiate (0) May 21, 2013 California
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    I'll happily take the bottles off your hands for, say $26 each so you don't have to feel so dirty consuming them. ;-)

    I'll be lucky to get one in Seattle at any price.
     
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  11. TheeWalrusHunter

    TheeWalrusHunter Initiate (0) Aug 23, 2013 Oregon

    I think ill survive.
     
  12. ellswrth

    ellswrth Pundit (840) Oct 7, 2003 Oregon
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    Beer Mongers sold out around 3pm. 3 bottle limit.
     
  13. OregonHopmonster

    OregonHopmonster Initiate (0) Jan 15, 2011 Oregon

    Logsdon numbers their bottles by brand, not by year. By that I mean the bottle numbers for batch 2 Peche n Brett started where batch 1 ended. Batch 3 bottle numbers start where last year's left off. Other brands (Seizoen Bretta, Ceresus, etc. have there own numbers).
     
  14. w_klon

    w_klon Initiate (0) Aug 1, 2012 Oregon
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    Just this^^

    It is typical for breweries/wineries to charge more, as to not undercut their primary customer (the retailer). They sell way more product through distribution channels, then they could ever sell at the brewery/winery only (although, that may not actually be the case when talking about these special releases). But you have to reward your customers when they bought all the Kili Wit and Seizon Bretta all year.

    I think it went like this:
    We just spent money on oysters, salami, and free beer. Oh, people are still calling and emailing us on whether we are going to be open, even though the freeways are closed. Hot damn, change that 0 to a 5 and let's make a little extra dough this weekend, we have to pay Cooper Spurs and Olympic Provisions for their shit. My time is money, too.

    Or simply,

    You think they'll buy it at $25?...Hell yeah they will!...

    AND everybody did.


    Either way, if you got up to Logsdon and paid the 150$ for 6 bottles, that may very well be the only 6 bottles you get.
     
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  15. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    In a way, I think they've already accepted the fact that it's not working for them. Used to be that I only saw things like Vlad, Sang noir and Bourbonic P at the brewery/barrel house, and maybe a few accounts around town in PDX. Now that stuff is all over the place. I saw bottles of BP at Bottleworks on Sunday, and it seems like everyplace in town that normally carries Cascade has bottles of BP down here in Eugene. I've never seen such a variety in town before, nor such a quantity of Cascade beer around town. You have to think they would prefer to keep on selling it out of the brewery or barrel house; I'm assuming they don't because they can't.
     
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  16. ballardbeer

    ballardbeer Pundit (779) Nov 10, 2013 Oregon

    Not to sidetrack the logsdon conversation, but as a new resident to the PNW, i'm not incredibly familiar with cascade's history. have they recently increased their beer prices to the $20/$25/$30 price model?
     
  17. Lansman

    Lansman Savant (1,116) Mar 19, 2011 Missouri
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    (Very) long story short, there was a brief time when Cascade sold their most exclusive offerings at the barrel house only and the product moved at a relatively fast pace. Since this time (I believe starting in early 2012) the demand for Cascade offerings have remained relatively constant (or have dipped due to there being an increase in other offerings available from other producers), while the price of each offering and quantities by which the product was being produced increased and began to outpace the demand. As a result, Cascade has turned to selling the excess product at the same prices (upwards of $30 each) online, through their distribution channels, etc., and the product (Bourbonic Plague is a good example) has not sold through as fast as the same product sold previously. While there are some offerings that can justify the high price (Noyaux would be one example) the rest of the product in 750ml is tough to justify in today's market.

    IMO, if they switched to a smaller format, they would sell product faster and potentially increase demand. 375ml of Pumpkin Smash at $12.50-$15 is far easier to justify than 750ml at $30.
     
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  18. TheeWalrusHunter

    TheeWalrusHunter Initiate (0) Aug 23, 2013 Oregon

    Completely agree. I have never bought a cascade bottle in my life because of the price point. Though i don't think semi-broke 25 year olds who are within walking distance of their brewery is Cascade's target market.

    However, i did just drop coin on Peche in Brett.

    I dont understand myself very well.
     
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  19. ggfunk

    ggfunk Initiate (0) Mar 29, 2010 Oregon

    Sounds to me like you have your priorities straight.
     
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  20. Shmeal

    Shmeal Initiate (0) Nov 9, 2009 Oregon

    All of my Cascade money and more has turned into De Garde money.
     
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