More TG Pseudo Sue going out!

From what I've heard (note, is rumor) is that this is the first batch off their new kettles and they are apparently more "efficient" at extracting the sugars, which resulted in the higher ABV. Same recipe though. I love it tremendously!

 

Same recipe, better efficiency on their new system. Higher alcohol means a little less leftover sugar. You're gonna have to come up with some other reason to not like it and get back to us.

 

Better efficiency + higher ABV could still yield a higher FG. Think 15% more fermentable sugars yet not all sugars get fermented. Could also be that perceived sweetness could come from less bitterness/hop flavor (bigger body, more alcohol, same hops as if it was regular Sue).

I thought it was a cool mix up, but prefer the last few batches to this one. Would honestly much rather see a Petite Sue, pushing the ABV down the 1% to around 4.5. Sounds like a perfect six pack to work on over the course of a night.

 

Don't rule out Petite Sue. I've been thinking about it, but no tank space yet.

The 7% Sue should be viewed as a one time deal for now. Maybe brewed again, but not regular.

-Mike

 

I love some sweetness with my hops, guess I better get some of this.....

I actually bought a bottle at Festival La Crosse Tuesday night, how do I know if it is from the 7% batch? Is it indicated on the bottle somewhere?

 

Pretty sure the 7.0% batch does not list the ABV on the label while normal Sue says 6.0%

 

They are talking about higher OG from greater mash attenuation. More fermentables and unfermentables meaning a little more left over sugar, or higher FG. Higher OG also means reduced hop utilization so the same hop bill yields less IBU. Nice snarky comment about something you clearly don't understand though.

 

I'm confused. A higher OG accompanied by a higher FG means no discernible change other than extra sugars, however, if Sue is 7% that means that the yeast still attenuated the same as usual and that's what would cause more sugar to ferment out and make the higher percentage of alcohol. Otherwise OG - FG would = the same ABV% when they are both raised and it wouldn't matter what numbers you plug in:

(1.070 - 1.025 = 62.7% attn.) = 5.9% ABV

(1.060 - 1.015 = 73.9% attn.) = 5.9% ABV

This is probable explanation of 7% Sue
(1.059 - 1.013 = 77.0% attenuation) = ca. 6%

(1.069 - 1.015 = 77.1% attenuation) = ca. 7%

Note: The top attenuation numbers do not represent American IPA yeasts

Also Note how the two final gravities in this case are two gravity points away from each other. That means that the difference in both beers final product are not far from each other.

 

The probable seems reasonable. I didn't mean equally higher OG and FG, just that a higher OG would inevitably lead to higher FG, therefore somewhat sweeter beer. Going from 1.06 to 1.07 OG with the same hop bill and boil time would give you about a 10% drop in hop utilization as well. More unfermented sugars, lets Citra hop alpha acids, I didn't care for it as much as the regular, that is all.

 

The texture of the beer is changed for sure with higher ABV% and slightly higher unfermentables.

 

Cool, thanks. I could not find a ABV anywhere on the label so I must have a 7%, great!

 

Normally, the ABV is listed just to the right of the circular TG logo...

 

This is brilliant! I like what your thinking here!

 

You weren't impressed, as in you would rate it < 4? I think most who think a beer like this has a muted hop profile have wrecked the palate. I always find it funny how many think certain IPA's are too sweet, but maybe I am more sensitive to bitter flavors. I know I am drinking many other styles between IPA's so I do not experience this phenomenon.

 

What do bottles cost? Getting one in a trade and what to know what price I need to shoot for.

 

$8 or so. Worth every penny.

 

$6 at the taproom I believe, and some distro

 

I think $6 is for Dorothy's and IPAs are $8

 

You're assuming higher OG, but that is more likely.

You're also assuming you know what I do and don't understand and we know what that makes. My snark was more about someone who likes Sue at 6% but not at 7%, when I doubt you could tell them apart....I'm assuming...

 

You are assuming I assumed higher OG.

TG Brews Hop Patrol ‏@TGBrews Feb 18
@isuee94 @WSJbeerbaron exact same #pseudoSue recipe only our new brewing equipment is a lot more efficient and we achieved a higher OG,