Head of a brew

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  1. Srkolodn

    Srkolodn Savant (1,050) Dec 26, 2013 New York
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    So as I wait for my first batch of homebrew to finish up I've began to think of what I want my second brew to be like. I know I want to make a double IPA, one which is more amber than golden, and I want it to have a strong head. I have zero idea what contributes to giving a beer nice head, fellow BA's, please voice your opinions on what I can to do get the color and head on this next project.

    Cheers!

    Steven
     
  2. Scope4Beer

    Scope4Beer Zealot (677) Sep 28, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Hops, caramel/crystal malts, wheat malt, and oats all contribute to head retention and body. For any DIPA, between the hops and some crystal or carapils, you should be good with the head retention.
     
  3. utahbeerdude

    utahbeerdude Maven (1,374) May 2, 2006 Utah

    In a double IPA, if you use the appropriate amount of hops, you should be fine with respect to head retention.
     
  4. ryane

    ryane Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2007 Washington

    A DIPA for a second brew is not a good choice, too much to go that will go wrong, do something smaller and read more about how to consistently make good beer before you spend lots of $$ on what Im pretty sure would be an extract batch that you dont have the possibility of doing a full boil on
     
  5. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    I would tend to agree with this. make a regular IPA about 6.5% ABV. Focus on these things before you go into double-land:

    fermentation temperature (steady below 70F, preferably 65F)
    yeast pitching temperature (wort same temps as above)
    sanitation
    full boils (even if you need to split the batch into two pots; split hops proportionately)
    fast cooling (get a wort chiller)
    KISS methodology and recipe formulation

    you could literally just use extract and hops and make a great IPA with plenty of head.
     
  6. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Good fermentation. Fusel alcohols kill the head.
     
  7. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    In addition to the other most excellent ideas...also consider including white wheat malt @ 5% of your grist.
     
  8. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    I agree with @ryane and @AlCaponeJunior that you should do something simpler. Can you do a full boil? If not, don't bother with a DIPA. Can you chill a full boil quickly? If not, don't bother with a DIPA.
     
  9. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    it is not usually something that needs to be designed into a brew.
    well made all grain beer will not have any problem forming and holding good head. use an immaculately clean glass.

    but also-
    protein.
    beer with protein will hold foam significantly longer than without.
    wheat is your best bet here. no other beer foam is like a good german hefe. 5% will do it.

    in addition to what others have said, vigorous boil, rapid chill, use of Fermcap S.



    Cheers.
     
  10. Srkolodn

    Srkolodn Savant (1,050) Dec 26, 2013 New York
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    Can someone explain the usefullness of the rapid chill.. Im sure its something I can easily find but I like to get the different opinions from actual homebrewers.
     
  11. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    first and foremost, the less time wort is within the temperature zone when contamination from wild bugs is possible the better. best to get to fermentation temp quickly so the brewer can add favorable bugs ; yeast.

    crash cooling limits the production of DMS.
    cold break drops out protein and junk that is best not in beer, though it isn't a sin.
     
  12. ryane

    ryane Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2007 Washington

    Im not 100% in agreement with the rapid chilling, I usually take 4-6hours to get mine to pitch temps, with the caveat that Im below 85F within 30min. Big breweries do not cool all that wort very fast, and I dont either, we both seem to make decent beer. From a newb brewer standpoint the faster you cool the better, but not from making good beer

    Back to another point though, and that is if you cannot boil ~6-7gal of wort, you cannot truly make a DIPA, you just cant get enough IBU's in there without a full boil
     
  13. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    My beers get so much head, I'm usually jealous........
     
  14. ssam

    ssam Pundit (997) Dec 2, 2008 California

    Well the dangerous zone for DMS would be way higher than 85, off the top of my head I'd say more like above 140. Same with haze protein dropping, it probably happens by the time you get to 85. So you are doing it right, you get it out of the danga (read: dainja) zone in 30 minutes or less.

    Big breweries don't rapidly cool wort? Are you sure about that?
     
  15. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    and all that hot water gets put to good use as well.
     
  16. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    They may transfer to a whirlpool, spin the wort for 20 minutes or more, settle, then run off through a plate heat exchanger. The wort, or part of it, will be at over 200F for up to an hour, maybe more.

    Once the wort goes through the heat exchanger, it is at pitching temps.
     
  17. Srkolodn

    Srkolodn Savant (1,050) Dec 26, 2013 New York
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    Has anyone added citrusy fruits to their IPA, I was wondering what the processes are for that
     
  18. WelshBrewer

    WelshBrewer Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2013 Oregon

    Go for the DIPA regardless of what others want to do, do what you want to do, that is what makes home brewing great hobby you can do whatever the heck you want. Be prepared at all times for a dump tho because things can go wrong, (its all a matter of willingness to accept that fact). 5 years no dump yet.
     
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  19. Srkolodn

    Srkolodn Savant (1,050) Dec 26, 2013 New York
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    Can you recommend a good "bang for your buck" wort chiller, or a cheap one that does the job.
     
  20. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    Not sure I have a specific one in mind. You will need a coil of copper tubing, 3/8" or 1/2", some plastic hose, and a connector to your hose (or sink). You can probably build one cheaper than you can buy one. I have one I bought and part of one (the pre-chiller) that I made. The pre-chiller is the same but is inline before the main chiller because our tap water is usually quite warm (pre-chiller goes in an ice bucket). Either way, it's a very necessary investment for brewers.
     
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