Tired Hands Growler Policy

Discussion in 'Mid-Atlantic' started by RPH2327, Mar 2, 2014.

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  1. Edwin

    Edwin Pundit (827) May 8, 2003 Pennsylvania

    If anyone needs a mule, I can probably store about three growlers where frisking won't find them.
     
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  2. DrinkAnchorSteam

    DrinkAnchorSteam Zealot (558) Jan 23, 2014 Pennsylvania

    The issue of "advocating" came up in this thread and different interpretations of the word. I don't know if the Bros define it more than this on their reason for the website:
    • Wake the masses to better beer options.
    • Give beer consumers a voice.
    • Empower them to learn, share, and advocate.
    • Rally to support the beer industry.
    • Put the Respect back into Beer.
    And of course "Respect Beer." is their motto.

    Are we respecting beer when we're buying multiple growlers to send a beer across the country when the beer won't be as fresh? You think you're helping someone out who might not have the chance to try a beer but you're limiting someone who actually walks into Tired Hands from perhaps trying it because the keg kicked from too many growler fills.

    I think too many people are trying to "Smokey and the Bandit" craft beer and the internet is making it all too easy for beer geeks to fill the need to have every beer.

    advocate

    ad·vo·cate
    [v. ad-vuh-keyt; n. ad-vuh-kit, -keyt]
    verb (used with object), ad·vo·cat·ed, ad·vo·cat·ing.
    1.
    to speak or write in favor of; support or urge by argument;recommend publicly: He advocated higher salaries for teachers.
    noun
    2.
    a person who speaks or writes in support or defense of a person,cause, etc. (usually followed by of ): an advocate of peace.
    3.
    a person who pleads for or in behalf of another; intercessor.
    4.
    a person who pleads the cause of another in a court of law.
     
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  3. nesarebad

    nesarebad Pooh-Bah (1,868) Feb 4, 2012 Massachusetts
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    Yes
     
  4. kenatbeerswap

    kenatbeerswap Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2010 Pennsylvania

    All the different bars and breweries I've had growlers filled at haven't had a place not use a hose. Kidding about bring my own hose, but disappointed they don't care about their beer to spend a few pennies to make it the best it can be. Especially since you said most of their stuff is under carbonated. With more and more breweries and brewpubs opening every week it's going to be the places that make good beer and care about their product that will stay in business. Was hoping someone on here knows someone there that can point how to make their growler filling process better. If you don't give your local breweries/brewpubs feedback they may not be around to drink at in the future.
     
  5. nesarebad

    nesarebad Pooh-Bah (1,868) Feb 4, 2012 Massachusetts
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    Hill Farmstead does not use a hose for their growler fills. This will not be a problem for them.
     
  6. kenatbeerswap

    kenatbeerswap Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2010 Pennsylvania

     
  7. nesarebad

    nesarebad Pooh-Bah (1,868) Feb 4, 2012 Massachusetts
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    I think we are getting off track here; we were supposed to be complaining about how many growlers they let you fill - not how the growlers are filled :slight_smile:
     
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  8. pmarlowe

    pmarlowe Pooh-Bah (2,005) Nov 27, 2010 Virginia
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    I think the issue is fundamentally simple.

    If supply is limited, each growler you send out of market leaves one fewer growler for people who visit the brewpub. And those visitors can enjoy the beer fresh/as fully carbonated as TH ever is.
     
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  9. HRamz3

    HRamz3 Initiate (0) Feb 9, 2010 Pitcairn

    I wish they'd stop filling growlers. Just distibute kegs to Philly. I'm tired of going to Ardmore.
     
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  10. kenatbeerswap

    kenatbeerswap Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2010 Pennsylvania

    sorry your right, was just trying to find out how they fill growlers and figured someone on here knew. sorry for the tread jack and thanks for the info.
     
  11. nesarebad

    nesarebad Pooh-Bah (1,868) Feb 4, 2012 Massachusetts
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    Also, if you want to look for your silver lining - shouldn't the .rar factor be increased due to this new policy?
     
  12. nesarebad

    nesarebad Pooh-Bah (1,868) Feb 4, 2012 Massachusetts
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    No worries, just having a little fun.
     
  13. Beerisheaven

    Beerisheaven Initiate (0) Dec 5, 2007 Pennsylvania


    They are not stupid, they are very much aware as to the various processes used to fill a growler. They have made their choice. It is really as simple as that. Truth told, growlers really were conceived to do what their intent was, allow someone to not play Russian Roulette with Officer Friendly and to take some of the beer home to enjoy that day/night or next. Growlers were not born to allow for them to be shipped 3000 miles away and beyond (I still am amazed that some have shipped TH growlers across the ocean but that is a different story) but that is what has happened.

    I am always on guard when I trade one or receive one unless it is something like a Troegs growler or Town Hall or Pegs growler. As far I am am concerned, you agree to all the risk when trading for a growler and most of them I anticipate to be slightly less than optimal or a train wreck. That is why I am always hesitant to ship any Selinsgrove growler. Great beer but not so great in growler presentation. I actually spent $66 to overnight one to a trading buddy one time. For TH, I normally only sent them to the Northeast or New England where the normal delivery was 1 or 2 days. At least they would not be flat as a board when cracked that way.
     
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  14. Beerisheaven

    Beerisheaven Initiate (0) Dec 5, 2007 Pennsylvania


    Considering the # of growlers that find their way out of Tired Hands, I don't consider ANY of their stuff rare whether it be one growler at a time or 10 growlers at a time per person. It's a "shelf beer", nothing more, nothing less. I guess maybe the term should be a "tap beer" or something like that. Anyone that tells you different is simply playing games.
     
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  15. nesarebad

    nesarebad Pooh-Bah (1,868) Feb 4, 2012 Massachusetts
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    This - I had contemplated sending some to trading partners in CA but as I have become more experienced with their growlers I would only send one that takes 1-2 to get to its destination. It reflects poorly on you and can hurt TH's reputation to send their flat beer out for trade wins.
     
  16. nesarebad

    nesarebad Pooh-Bah (1,868) Feb 4, 2012 Massachusetts
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    Haha, just know someone will try and pull - "it is one growler per visit so it needs to trade higher".
     
  17. Beerisheaven

    Beerisheaven Initiate (0) Dec 5, 2007 Pennsylvania

    I don't doubt it but shame on them.
     
  18. kenatbeerswap

    kenatbeerswap Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2010 Pennsylvania

    I never said they were stupid and would not call brewery/brewpub stupid. My point is if you fill two growlers one straight from the tap and one using a hose after a week open both up you will see a huge difference in carbonation levels. I enjoy tasting different beers but don't want to drive right after a few so i will get growlers to take home. I don't drink every night so it maybe a few days till I get to the growler. I would hate to spend good money to open a growler after a few days and it be flat. I have only ever traded one growler over the years and do not like to ship them and agree they do have a short self life. I'm fine with the limit they put on growlers just like a lot of breweries put on special bottle releases. Now that I know how they fill growlers I would probably not buy any to go. Also using a hose will cut down on the foaming which will save the beer and money. They would get more fills out of a keg by using a hose. Not hating anyone just trying to educate. Isn't that what we are about here?
     
  19. Beerisheaven

    Beerisheaven Initiate (0) Dec 5, 2007 Pennsylvania



    For sure my man and sorry if it sounded differently. I was simply saying that a brewery is aware of how others might fill their growlers. They do purge them but don't use a hose to bottom fill. They did that on purpose as opposed to not simply being aware as to other options for growler fills. I was just saying that they are infinitely aware of the process and have simply chosen to fill in the manner they do. Sorry if you took it another way. Not calling anyone - you, the brewery, or anyone - stupid. I owe you a beer.
     
  20. kenatbeerswap

    kenatbeerswap Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2010 Pennsylvania

    No problems, I would just think small breweries that are worried about running out of beer and loss of product would do everything they can to prevent it. I'll take you on that beer and buy you one also.
     
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