Tired Hands Growler Policy

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  1. lostandwandering

    lostandwandering Initiate (0) Oct 14, 2009 New Jersey

  2. PA-Michigander

    PA-Michigander Grand Pooh-Bah (3,372) Nov 10, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    I hope starting tomorrow they only file five ounces at a time.
     
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  3. FatBoyGotSwagger

    FatBoyGotSwagger Grand Pooh-Bah (3,999) Apr 4, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Well looks like I won't be filling any growlers other than the 1 Liter kind(that is the only size TH growlers I got) I can't say that this is good or bad, as their growlers aren't a great value to begin with. Not to mention I get my IPA fix from other more affordable options. That being said those long winded paragraphs in their new growler policy page reek of the smug south park episode(those who smell their own farts).

    Edit: TH needs better 2L growlers to push such a rule. The screw top joints just don't cut it nowadays when the quality of beer you are serving is so far above screw top growlers. Might as well allow for plastic milk jug fills.
     
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  4. CassinoNorth

    CassinoNorth Initiate (0) Apr 5, 2013 New Jersey

    Are their 64 oz growlers really screw top?

    I'm not a fan of 64 oz growlers in general. I can deal with 32 oz in the appropriate amount of time but 64 is tough unless I'm going to a party. Glad I grabbed the 32 swing top when I was there in that case.
     
  5. Blanco

    Blanco Savant (1,243) Oct 11, 2008 Pennsylvania

    yeah they sell the generic 64 oz screwtop that most people sell.
     
  6. Franch

    Franch Initiate (0) Mar 22, 2011 District of Columbia

    lol of fucking course you now have to buy their branded glass. "weeelllll we like stainless steel growlers which are without a doubt the best vessel we could put beer in for the health of the beer but it doesn't say tired hands sooooo"
     
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  7. ajfa531

    ajfa531 Zealot (686) Jun 2, 2007 New Jersey
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    You might want to read the rationale behind the stainless decision because it's not the branding. It's the same reason Hill Farmstead has chosen not to fill them.

    - Joe
     
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  8. RPH2327

    RPH2327 Initiate (0) Dec 5, 2010 Pennsylvania

    I have both 32 and 64oz TH growlers, so ultimately, my TH consumption will not change with the official growler filling policy (the one starting 3/4/14). However, a couple of thoughts/observations:

    1) Soon after they sold through a beer in 18 hours (it was MagoTago, right?), Jean made a comment on Facebook or Twitter about potentially limiting growler fills on certain beers - and it seemed to be worded as a hypothetical policy. Then, almost immediately, growler fills on certain beers were limited. Then, soon after, growler fills on all beers were limited. And now we have their final(?) policy. It's all good with me; I just thought the timing and "slope" of their policy progression were interesting.

    2) Agree that they need to sell another 64oz growler. I've opened my 64oz screw-top growler to flat beer enough that I now only fill it if I'm sharing it with friends almost immediately after purchase.

    3) The only thing that raises my eyelid a little is the transition to only filling their own growlers. It's not a huge change since they were already strict about which growlers they would fill. But last week someone could bring in their Whole Foods growler (32 or 64oz), get it filled without a problem, now today they can't? Many other growlers are identical in shape and size to their custom built tap towers. I know, know - their growlers are only $5 (it's a STEAL!). I already have TH growlers, so for me it's not a big deal. But that does bring me to my final point…

    4) @FatBoyGotSwagger nailed it with his South Park reference (those who smell their own farts). I couldn't find a clip in the right format to embed, so look it up. Hilarious!:grinning:

    I'm still a huge THBC supporter. I can't make it to the Beer Summit on Wednesday so you fine folks behave yourselves!:wink:

    Cheers.
     
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  9. FatBoyGotSwagger

    FatBoyGotSwagger Grand Pooh-Bah (3,999) Apr 4, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Maybe TH could make some sort of sticker with their name/logo on it that would be semi permanent and I could slap it on my blank growler transforming it into an "official growler".
     
  10. rondufresne

    rondufresne Initiate (0) Dec 13, 2011 Pennsylvania

    I am a fan of the growler limit rule...anything that helps more local people to access a perishable product like beer makes great sense for a brewery founded on the principle of "localization guides everything we do."

    That said, my favorite aspect of this so far has been reading the Facebook thread and seeing the dude who is most responsible for the need for the growler limit instantly becoming its biggest supporter. Biggest conversion since Saul/Paul.
     
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  11. stakem

    stakem Grand Pooh-Bah (4,070) Feb 20, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I've never understood the policy of places only allowing their own branded growlers for filling. Are they trying to say that only their own growlers are unique and proper size, custom made for filling at their taps? This is the answer to quality control and proper filling? I cant possibly be reading that correctly...

    All this shunning of people who trade. What about the countless growlers that have been filled (in their own branded glassware nonetheless) that have been flat within 24 hours? Lets not blame shipping and handling and people who trade (regardless of their intent.) If these growlers were filled properly they could and would ship just fine in the mail.
     
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  12. sj3324

    sj3324 Zealot (586) Jun 9, 2011 Missouri
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    I think what they are saying is they built their draft tower to a specific height, to accommodate the growlers that they use. "We built our tap towers to be THE specific height to accommodate both our 32oz and 64oz growlers."
    Not that they have growlers designed to fit the specific height of their taps. I would imagine it is easier to have a policy and just fill their growlers than it is to deal with people complaining that the growler they brought in is the same as the ones TH sells. Also, it says nothing about quality, just that they want to reduce the amount of beer that is wasted/given away for free.

    The only growlers that I have had go "flat" from them were beers that were not carbed very high to begin with. A number of their IPA's seem to have pretty low carbonation when I have had them on tap, which I enjoy. It does kind of suck to have a growler you are looking forward to be flat when you open it if you wait a week, but what would you expect when the carbonation level was low to begin with? I have never had an issue with a flat growler of anything from them that had "normal" carbonation levels, even growlers that I have had in my fridge for a month.
     
  13. Beerisheaven

    Beerisheaven Initiate (0) Dec 5, 2007 Pennsylvania

    What's next, not allowing me to put my head under the taps anymore? The website posting sounds borderline ridiculous and the notion that they are giving beer away because of the fact that others 64 oz glass is actually 68 oz. I have NEVER heard any other place that fills growlers say such a thing so those places are simply giving away a lot of beer as well. Same thing with any spillage that is created.

    I really wonder exactly what is going on. TH knows that their beer is traded out the wazoo but that never stopped them from proudly posting how fast their beer was being consumed after various releases. They often stated how much they loved everyone for the support of such mass consumption. Now it has become a huge problem but just last month or whatever they loved the masses for kicking kegs with reckless abandon?

    If there are this many issues, just stop filling growlers and have a place that locals can enjoy. Too much drama!
     
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  14. lostandwandering

    lostandwandering Initiate (0) Oct 14, 2009 New Jersey

    If you think there is drama because they are limiting growler fills, just wait and see what kind of shit storm happens if they say no growlers at all.

    It's their business and their decision. We either deal with it or move on.
     
  15. Beerisheaven

    Beerisheaven Initiate (0) Dec 5, 2007 Pennsylvania

    I am still fascinated that there is THAT much demand for their beers in trade via growlers. I have a pretty wide geogrphically diverse group of somewhat regular trading partners and I can't say that they have overwhelming interest in TH beers. Sure, some of the bottles have attracted some curiousity on release but other than Delicado, Light that Spills, and maybe one or two others, I can't say that anyone has beaten down my door asking for them. But it is obvious that there is a group of people out there who want ALL their stuff. Interesting.
     
  16. mdfb79

    mdfb79 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,757) Jan 11, 2010 New York
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    In my experience (roughly 12-15 growlers filled at TH), something like Alien Church holding up that long and that well is the exception not the rule. My experiences have been more like you said about "going flat" quickly (I had the same experience with Uyawa Pog; thought it was one of their best beers I've had from them so far on tap, growler didn't hold up as well). I've never waited longer than 5 days to crack a TH growler, always keep them in the fridge, and have consumec most of them in a 24-36 hour time frame, and they still don't seem to hold up well. I've found unless I am going home and drinking it within the next few hours, for the most part they lose something.

    I could care less about the growler limiting policies; doesn't bother me and I understand it. I think the reasoning they gave behind only filling their branded growlers is lame, but also not the biggest deal to me as I have TH growlers. For me the biggest concern is that their growlers don't tend to hold up more then a day. For a place that is so concerned about the quality of their beers and how they are being perceived outside the brewpub, it seems odd they haven't solved the growler carbonation issue yet.
     
  17. Chroma914

    Chroma914 Zealot (623) Oct 13, 2006 Pennsylvania

    I remember buying a 64oz TH growler and got it filled with Brothers. Cracked open the growler 24 hours later and it was flat as a board. Good times.
     
  18. Beerisheaven

    Beerisheaven Initiate (0) Dec 5, 2007 Pennsylvania


    I agree, if you don't drink that day, you have a great chance of having just flushed money down the drain with a lot of their growler fills. If someone really wants their beers, I will generally oblige but it is a pain driving down Route 30 for me, so I have generally stopped hooking people up with their beers. I always tell them that there is an army of others that will be able to help them out.
     
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  19. mdfb79

    mdfb79 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,757) Jan 11, 2010 New York
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    Yeah, my fiance's family lives in Lower Merion so I go all the time. I love the place (both food and beers), but found bringing a couple growlers back to NY just isn't worth it for the most part. Still routinely buy them to consume in LM later that day though.
     
  20. HRamz3

    HRamz3 Initiate (0) Feb 9, 2010 Pitcairn

    One can only hope!
     
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