Recipe feedback for Russian Imperial Stout

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  1. firstthenlast

    firstthenlast Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2013 Massachusetts

    Hello,

    My second beer for the weekend will be a RIS.

    Mash at 153 for 60 min, with 60 min boil.

    14# UK 2 row
    1.5# Roast Barley
    1.5# Chocolate Malt
    .25# Rice hulls
    .5# Brown malt
    1# Wheat malt
    .5# C60
    1# Brown Sugar


    Wyeast 1084 with starter.

    I am stuck between EKG and Warrior to bitter. I want about 50IBU of bittering at 60 min.

    I will put another oz of EKG in at 10 min to go.

    I did something similar a while ago only 10# MO instead of 14# pilsner, only 35 IBU, no crystal and no sugar, loved high amount of dark grains.

    What do folks think? I know for some of y'all its too much roast and chocolate.
     
  2. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    It's not too much of anything. It's too low of an IBU I think. I bitter my RIS to around 100 IBU. They will get sweet with time. The brown sugar will do nothing extra over regular sugar anyways- so use what you have on hand. I would mash lower too. You'll need every point there.

    Looks more like an imperial brown to me honestly.
     
  3. cmac1705

    cmac1705 Zealot (517) Apr 30, 2010 Florida

    I like to use just enough roasted grain to make the beer black, as I think it aids drinkability, so I'd probably lower the total roasted malt accordingly. JMO of course.

    The key, as you probably know, to this beer is to pitch enough healthy yeast and maintain good temperature control.
     
  4. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    Probably good for a regular stout, but a RIS has an ashy acrid bitter note to it. Atleast my take on the style is so. It's more than just the color.

    But stellar points on the fermentation. You can jack up a big beer fast with crap temp control and not pitching enough healthy yeast.
     
  5. firstthenlast

    firstthenlast Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2013 Massachusetts

    What is an imperial brown ale and how does it differ from stout?
     
  6. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    I'd nix the brown sugar. A healthy pitch with 1084 should keep this beer pretty dry. I like the idea of EKG late in the boil. As Fatc1ty said, you can go heavier with the dark malts, and SHOULD go heavier with the hops. Black patent, Special B, and a few more pounds of base malt would be added if I were brewing this. It would be slower to set up and it would have some dark fruit flavor after 8-12 months.
     
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  7. cmac1705

    cmac1705 Zealot (517) Apr 30, 2010 Florida

    Agree completely. I just tend to prefer a less acrid stout, especially when you're dropping 80-120 IBUs in there. Takes so long for those things to smooth out, in my experience.
     
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  8. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

    This recipe looks perfectly reasonable to me.
     
  9. skivtjerry

    skivtjerry Pooh-Bah (1,865) Mar 10, 2006 Vermont
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    He's got 3lb of roasted grain in, I'm assuming, 5gal (otherwise it wouldn't be very 'imperial'); that sounds plenty stouty to me. It doesn't necessarily need 100IBU but it might be good to kick it up to 70-80. I'd be tempted to add another 1-2lb of base malt to make it bigger too. But HB42 is right - OP's recipe will be good as written.
     
  10. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    OP: Whatever you decide to do it should shape up great. Aerate your beer and keep the ferm temp low and it won't matter what you throw in there. :slight_smile:
     
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