Berliner time.. Bring me your best.

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by FATC1TY, Feb 20, 2014.

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  1. BuckettOfBeer

    BuckettOfBeer Zealot (506) Mar 19, 2010 Minnesota

    How long was it sitting before you boiled it?
     
  2. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    Around a week at roughly 70* degrees.
     
  3. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    I keg, and have dual regs, one for everything else and one for the ones that need the "extra" touch. I can do high volume pretty easy and get away with that set up due to line length too. I planned for atleast 3 volumes.
     
  4. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    I did get my wort pH pretty low, I think I got to 4.0 or so, but I didn't have to use acid malt. I balanced my water out and used a little lactic acid.

    I "pitched" the grain around 115* or so degrees and let it sit outside while I brewed another beer. It was around 65-70 that day, past that I didn't do any other temp control.

    I had literally no off smells. It's was nothing but a sourish sweet wheat smell the whole time.

    I didn't flush it daily, but I didn't check it but twice. I flushed originally with some Co2, and then topped it up a little with some seltzer water after I took a hydro reading.

    I did a 15 min boil. Kettle lid off, and let it rip. Added hops at start of boil, and chilled as fast as I could after 15 min.

    I have some brett, but decided to keep it "clean" for the time being. I'm sure I'll use it and funk up a berliner for some longer aging, maybe do something early summer for the fall, but as it stands, I have plenty of complex sour going on, that isn't just a wheat beer that has lactic acid bite to it.

    Maybe I lucked out, but this is the easiest way. I can brew it on a Sunday, sour it, and the following Saturday I can boil it and be done with it. Only issue I had was a bit of a delayed lag time with the yeast. I think I pitched a little low, and used 1 packet rehydrated of US05 and it took close to 24 hours before I had activity, due to the lower pH.
     
  5. jae

    jae Initiate (0) Feb 21, 2010 Washington

    I did a series of sour mashed BWs last spring/summer. My favorite one was dryhopped with Cascade and Citra. That keg went FAST at 3% ABV.
     
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  6. psnydez86

    psnydez86 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2012 Pennsylvania

    @FATC1TY I think a lag time with sac strains is gonna be unavoidable with that low of a ph. It's so cool reading your personal experience as I find Berlinerweisse to be my favorite session beer especially in the summer. However binge drinking festina peche at while playing yard games is something I can't do financially. I can however afford to brew multiple sour wort Berliners and to put them on draft would be killer!! Thanks for the awesome info and let's keep this thread going!
     
  7. jlordi12

    jlordi12 Pooh-Bah (1,856) Jun 8, 2011 Massachusetts
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    I can't wait to try this. I probably won't brew for a month because my wife is pretty fed up w/ all my projects right now, but when I do I'm going to give this a shot. I think I'll split the batch , one reg and one on fruit. Thanks for all the good info.
     
  8. dblab33

    dblab33 Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2011 Michigan

    I use a Fermwrap that I got on sale for about $20. I think they are normally $30ish. Well worth the investment if this is something you want to make regularly. I leave it on during the entire souring process and it holds temp right around 110-115 degrees.
     
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  9. dblab33

    dblab33 Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2011 Michigan

    I also experience about 18-24 hour lag time and I'm pitching at a rate pretty similar to one pack of US-05. I don't feel the need to pitch more yeast, as I am happy with the results as is. One of my favorite things about this beer is that it is dirt cheap.
     
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  10. jester5120

    jester5120 Initiate (0) Jan 9, 2011 Pennsylvania

    "Don't Fret, just add Brett" that may become the funky/sour brewers version of "Relax, Don't Worry, Have A Homebrew"
     
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  11. psnydez86

    psnydez86 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2012 Pennsylvania

    I bought a heating pad at Walmart to hook up to my temp controller. The only problem is the pad won't turn on once it shuts off. I'll have to experiement with how warm I can get my bucket with the heating pad just left on not hooked up to the controller.
     
  12. psnydez86

    psnydez86 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2012 Pennsylvania

    I'm probably gonna do us05 for my first batch but I look forward to using Brett Brux trois eventually cuz I think its tropical esters will work nice.
     
  13. Theortiz01

    Theortiz01 Initiate (0) Jun 7, 2013 Texas

    I would be down for this too if interested, I've got a few things in fermenters right now which should be ready by the end of the month to trade you.
     
  14. joshrosborne

    joshrosborne Initiate (0) Jun 14, 2010 Michigan

  15. jester5120

    jester5120 Initiate (0) Jan 9, 2011 Pennsylvania

    why won't it turn back on?
     
  16. trevord13

    trevord13 Initiate (0) Sep 30, 2010 Virginia

    What is the preferred method for adding fruit to the secondary for a BW? Living in VA nothing is really in season right now, so I would probably use frozen raspberries or cherries for the first couple of batches. I would like to get a few batches knocked out before fresh fruit season hits in May.

    Is 1/2lb per 1 gallon adequate? Is 2 weeks long enough to sit on the fruit?
     
  17. psnydez86

    psnydez86 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2012 Pennsylvania

    I think it's a some sort of safety feature??
     
  18. dblab33

    dblab33 Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2011 Michigan

    It all depends on the fruit. With raspberries, 1 lb / gal is a good starting point. 2 weeks may be long enough depending on how intense you want the flavors to be. Some folks go anywhere from 2 weeks to 2+ months.
     
  19. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    certainly can do the same, as well as trade some local/regional stuff if you'd like to do that as well.
     
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  20. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    I planned to fruit a BW as well, but nothing is in season right now, and being here in GA, and going to NC alot in the spring/summer, I can't wait to get some fresh fruits that haven't seen the light of a store before. Blackberries and Peaches sound good to me right now.
     
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