New to kegging and having CO2 problems

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  1. lafleur8402

    lafleur8402 Initiate (0) Mar 12, 2014 Missouri

    I was hoping someone might provide some insight for me. I just (tried to) start kegging recently i started carbing my kegs and placed them in the kegerator monday night. for 24 hours the co2 pressure held and then this morning at about 36 hours the tank was empty and i had lost all pressure. I konw that i obviously have a leak and I can find that. My question is since i had already purged my tanks and then started carbing for about 24 hours where in the carbing process would I be. Once i have fixed the leak and reconnect everything I have no idea where i should be starting the carbing process (all over from the beginning or in the middle, or closer to the end)
     
  2. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    you can assume that your beer is not at proper CO2 concentration. it doesn't really matter though. fix the leak, then hook up your CO2 at the desired pressure and wait until the beer has balanced. the regulator will provide constant pressure in the keg and the liquid will eventually absorb gas until balanced. if the beer is 75% carbed, the it won't take very long. if it was only 25% complete then it will take longer.

    if you use the set it and forget it method to carb your beer, then just set it and forget it.
    Cheers.
     
  3. mugs1789

    mugs1789 Zealot (611) Dec 6, 2005 Maryland

    You need to start from the beginning. If there was a leak, then very little of the CO2 entered the beer.

    This is pretty common for somebody new to kegging. Leaks can be hard to find. I recommend pressurizing you keg to 30psi and removing it from the tank. Check the keg day or two later. If the keg doesn't hold pressure then at least you know that the problem (or one of the problems) is with the keg.
     
  4. sarcastro

    sarcastro Savant (1,133) Sep 20, 2006 Michigan

    Go to a quiet area, crank up the PSI on the regulator, hook it up to the keg, and listen.
     
  5. lafleur8402

    lafleur8402 Initiate (0) Mar 12, 2014 Missouri

    In trying to find the leak it looks as though the washer on the gas in connector to one of my kegs was somewhat loose. I have retightened this and at lunch when i get more CO2 will still check for any leaks. I have clamps attached with the hose going from the regulator and to the gas in connector that seem to be secure. Since I plan on keeping this hooked up as is, would it be a good idea as an extra precaution to put some sort of tape (in addition to the clamps) around the hose, as a backup safety measure to ensure no leaks are coming from these areas?
     
  6. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Gas disconnects (and the posts they connect to) don't have washers. Can you describe the parts in different words?
     
  7. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    I would assume that the CO2 that was forced into the keg while the tank was under pressure all escaped from the keg after the pressure in the tank stopped. The leak let your gas from the tank escape, then the gas that had been in the keg probably escaped from the same place. This is different if you have no leaks and simply use up all the gas in the tank as it is still a closed system.

    Use a spray bottle with soap and water to get suds and go at 30psi. I simply couldn't find the leak anywhere until I sprayed the 3 way splitter I had purchased and found that the weld was bad on one of the valves and let gas escape. I had to bypass that valve and deal with only 2.
     
  8. lafleur8402

    lafleur8402 Initiate (0) Mar 12, 2014 Missouri

    Yes, it might not have been the washer and instead the nut that holds the nipple for the gas in connector.
     
  9. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    You mean like the nut on the right side of this pic?

    http://www.northernbrewer.com/shop/...ab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/i/m/image_1941.jpg

    If so, yes, that needs to be tight so that the dish-shaped face on the bottom of the barb (left side of pic) is tight against the gas quick-disconnect's plastic tip.
     
  10. lafleur8402

    lafleur8402 Initiate (0) Mar 12, 2014 Missouri

  11. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

    Make sure you put keg lube on all of the O-rings on every keg. This goes a long way at preventing leaks and maintaining the seals.
     
  12. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,421) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    If the leak was upstream of the check valve, the beer may be fine.

    +1 on billandsuz's recommendation for the set it and forget it method. It doesn't matter how far along the beer is, this will make it right. It will just take some patience.

    To find leaks, crank the pressure up to 50 psi. Most leaks of any consequence will be audible at that pressure. Spray every connection with soapy water or StarSan and watch for bubbles. Some small leaks will close back up at normal pressure, but don't rely on that - fix them all.
     
  13. lafleur8402

    lafleur8402 Initiate (0) Mar 12, 2014 Missouri

    I went home at lunch after picking up some more CO2 and rehooked everything up. I found i needed to use better tools for the nuts on the gas in lines and needed to use a wrench and clamp to get more torque to close up the connection between the regulator and CO2 tank. Now i guess since i have no idea how much got carbed in the last 24 hours. I'll have to pour and taste every now and then until the beer gets to the correct carbonation. tasting is always my favorite part.

    Thanks to all for the advice with the carbing issue and with checking the lines.
     
  14. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Or, as mentioned, set the PSI at the "set and forget" equilibrium setting (depending on your beer temperature and desired CO2 volumes), wait a couple weeks, and enjoy. You can't overcarbonate this way.
     
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