Twin Leaf Brewing, Asheville NC

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  1. NCMonte

    NCMonte Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2014 North Carolina

    I'm hearing first week in March, is anyone else hearing anything different?
     
  2. VncentLIFE

    VncentLIFE Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2011 North Carolina

    Another brewery in Asheville? holy shit.
     
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  3. NCMonte

    NCMonte Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2014 North Carolina

    Yea, it is located on the famous South Slope of Asheville in amongst, Asheville Brewing, Hi-Wire, Green Man, Burial and Wicked Weed. I believe they're trying to be a true Brew/Pub.
     
  4. Handle

    Handle Initiate (0) Mar 16, 2009 North Carolina

    They haven't announced anything other than March. They won't be doing food, so they won't be a true brewpub -- but they'll have a taproom, of course!
     
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  5. Handle

    Handle Initiate (0) Mar 16, 2009 North Carolina

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  6. blamethemovies

    blamethemovies Initiate (0) Mar 11, 2012 Florida

    Well damn, just missed them by a week. I did my best impression of a stumble down that slope hitting all those breweries over the weekend.
     
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  7. GehenHerzog

    GehenHerzog Initiate (0) Jan 24, 2010 North Carolina

    I'll be in Asheville at the end of the month. Any one tried their beer?
     
  8. NCMonte

    NCMonte Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2014 North Carolina

    The Grand Opening is tomorrow, while I'm sure folks have sampled their beer, friends and family, I haven't seen anyone post on it. If you give me a couple days I will let you know. :wink:
     
  9. jmw

    jmw Initiate (0) Feb 4, 2009 North Carolina

  10. NCMonte

    NCMonte Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2014 North Carolina

    Heh, got side tracked giving a couple of tours over the weekend to different breweries, I um, didn't make it there. Had every intention of going but got slowed down by some good beer, good friends, and good talk. I will get there Wednesday, which is the plan at this time. Give you a report then. Try to figure out how to get the brewery listed on this forum, give an overall take. etc...

    My head is still smarting, not enough water. Could have made it Friday Night but it was open to Breweries hi society only in our area. Talked to a couple of brewery owners Friday night who were at their opening private function. I'm not in that circle though :slight_frown:
     
  11. NCMonte

    NCMonte Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2014 North Carolina

    Ok, here you go. Stopped into Twin Leaf Today and sampled 3 of their main stay Beers and 1 of their seasonal offerings. I stayed away from all of the high ABV's because I wanted to focus on the Beers folks would generally order (oddly enough I skipped their IPA as it was a bit high on the ABV >7%).

    Overall impression, the Bar area with the kettles all lined up in a row next to it, give you a feeling of freshness, of, I know where this came from, confidence. The Bar was crowded as it is newly opened but sadly, they only had 1 bartender who was a bit over whelmed as it took a good 10min to get to me, she even served several customers who arrived after me but again it was crowded (oh and I'm not small, I'm 6'2" 230lbs, kind of hard to miss).

    The Beer: The first one I tried was, "Dark Matter Oatmeal Stout". Very bitter beer, in fact more so than their, "Uproot ESB Extra Special Bitter" which I sampled next. This beer wasn't very creamy, wasn't very stouty, was dark, and maybe Oatmeal was tossed in there somewhere. I can't help but feel they missed on this beer. I would rank it as a below average offering.

    The next Beer I sampled was the "Uproot ESB Extra Special Bitter", which oddly enough wasn't all that bitter, at least compared to above. Much better beer. Deeply complex in flavor with a touch of sweetness. Drinkable (to me) ESB, I liked this beer and would put it above average as an offering.

    Next was their "White Noise Belgium Style Wit". Again a very complex, deeply flavorful, strong Wheat beer. If you are into Strong flavorful Wheat Beers this is the beer for you. Makes German style Wheat Beers taste like Coors by comparison. I was surprised at how well they crafted this beer, but I'm not all that into Wheat Beers. Again an above average brew.

    Finally, I had their seasonal, "Altitude Training Pale Ale". Talk about a puckering Hoppy Beer, behold this is one! Makes Hopslam taste like a Coors (sound familiar). Again a beer that is very deep into the Hoppy beer category, nothing mellow about this brew. It curls your toes.

    And that is the rub about Twin Leaf Brewing (so far?). As I sat there and sampled their major offerings not high ABV's, I got to thinking, there isn't a single beer on the menu my wife would drink. Each of the beers pushed the envelope of the style they were trying to emulate, but left behind the huddled masses. There wasn't a, what I call, "fall back to" beer if you didn't like a particular offering or the way they represented that style of beer or if you were with non-craft beer aficionados. To me, that needs to be corrected. Twin Leaf Brewery can't just be for the beer geek, they're too big in volume judging by the size of their kettles. They will have to expand into beers the average beer person will drink or they will never take off like they want to, in my opinion.

    Because of this, I would rate this brewery, using the scale here at BeerAdvocate a score of 86.
     
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  12. jmw

    jmw Initiate (0) Feb 4, 2009 North Carolina

    Thanks for the report. And you should do just that and cut and paste this exact thing into the reviews section.

    Contrary to the literal application, 'bitter' is a term that has been used generically for several brews termed as different styles, none of which ever really displayed bitterness as a major factor of their flavor profile. You can think of a bitter very much the same as a pale ale.

    And your thoughts in the last paragraph are spot on. Many breweries today are landing onstage this way, without ever mastering the subtleties of a standard pint. It does need to be corrected, and the American craft beer populace needs to learn that not everything needs to smack you in the mouth to be appreciable. Unfortunately the brewery will take off with this flight plan. There are enough one-and-done drinkers in the area to support a brewer that plays this game.

    Thanks again.
     
  13. RDMII

    RDMII Initiate (0) Apr 11, 2010 Georgia

    Two good friends went up Monday and tried all their beers, they're both brewers and beer snobs and were pleased overall. That's good enough for me.
     
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  14. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    As soon as the place is actually added...there is a fairly large approval queue for places and it is sitting in there right now so a review cannot be written yet. Thanks for posting the details to the forum though.
     
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  15. DWheeler379

    DWheeler379 Zealot (747) Jun 15, 2012 Colorado

    A wit and an ESB are typically pretty approachable beers. They don't need a boring lager to be approachable IMO, but I haven't tasted the beers yet, so I'll have to see for myself. Thanks for the report, hope they fix the lack of bartenders - I'm sure they will as they learn more about their crowds and cadence of crowds.
     
  16. NCMonte

    NCMonte Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2014 North Carolina

    While I would in general agree with this statement, their Wit is in no way shape or form "approachable". It is a cutting edge, deep, extremely intense beer. If it were the first wheat beer I had ever tasted, I wouldn't ever taste another. Now for someone who loves Wheat beers, this beer is for you, it really takes it to another level. Their ESB would be very approachable, because of the sweetness in it, but the bitter changes it. I did like it, it was my favorite of the beers I had there.

    Aside from the Stout, which again was a miss in my book, these beers were intense above average brews. I would really like to see this guy take a shot at a drinkable Lager or Ale. I fully believe he has the ability to brew the same deep intensity into a "boring" lager.

    Again, it isn't that an establishment needs to cater to the masses, but what am I suppose to do with my wife? She suppose to go and watch me drink? Ya, that's pleasant. Heh, would love to here more reports about Twin Leaf and I look forward to more of their beers.
     
  17. NCMonte

    NCMonte Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2014 North Carolina

    This is a valid reason as to why I don't like to post reviews on beers and breweries and why I haven't done so here on this forum to particular beers or places. My beer knowledge is limited. I drank a lot in Europe back in the late 80s and early 90's then went on an almost 20 year hiatus and only recently in the last couple of years become self aware of the craft brews. Therefore, I don't feel like I can give more than just a "my take" on what I taste. I can't tell you if a beer has a fine hint of butternut squash with a dollop of Juniper berry aroma. My pallet isn't that mature. I'm glad your friends enjoyed it. I really felt something there with their beers, a complexity in their ability to craft a brew, hence 3 above average scores out of 4.

    As far as the overall grade I put on it, it would have been higher if they would have had 1 beer I deemed as drinkable by the uninformed beer swilling public. Who knows, to some that might raise the score.
     
  18. jmw

    jmw Initiate (0) Feb 4, 2009 North Carolina

    This is exactly the reason that you should review beers and places (if you want to of course). Not everybody cares that a reviewer can detect hints of anise or squirrel fat, they just want to read what someone with an honest palate felt about the beer. Your 'take' is every bit as valid as the most accomplished reviewers' opinion on this site.
     
  19. HopsJunkiedotcom

    HopsJunkiedotcom Initiate (0) Dec 24, 2010 Florida

    Baaahahahahahahaha. This is spot on and awesome. I don't know you, but I will find you and I will hug you.
     
  20. baconmcnuggets

    baconmcnuggets Initiate (0) Mar 11, 2013 Florida

    Sat next to a guy at a share once who called himself a "supertaster" and explained the science behind his incredibly developed palate. While I don't doubt that some people, and I have no reason to believe not this guy, have heightened palates, just drink the effing beer. "Beer good" "Beer okay" and "Beer bad" are generally sufficient enough.

    Seems like this place is getting pretty decent feedback, and in the first week of opening that's impressive. Usually a jump to mass-scale puts some pretty excruciating growing pains on the brew. Look forward to giving it a shot on my next visit.
     
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