Surly Jumps The Shark?!

Discussion in 'Great Lakes' started by garylite, May 16, 2012.

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  1. garylite

    garylite Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2010 Connecticut

    Before I go any further, Last night I flew home from MSP with 20 cans of Furious in my luggage. This replenished the last load which I flew home with a few months back, 20 cans of Abrasive and two bottles of Smoke.
    I love Surly beer.
    While in MSP I went to two very cool places to eat (great food and at least 6 quality beers on tap). Both didn't serve Surly beer and it seemed deliberate(as opposed to the 100 places wishing to have it in the Twin Cities). There are several new Craft Brewers in MSP which is totally cool but I got the impression that some of the "hip" spots in town view Surly as the big bad arrogant brewery in town. This is of course hilarious to me and anyone else that wishes they could walk into a store and grab a four pack at will. It was an interesting bit of human nature I guess. When Surly opens their long awaited expansion / beer garden they will likely be viewed as an evil empire in MSP. Fine by me as long as they start distributing in the Northeast..
     
  2. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,036) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    If the "hip" spots in town didn't serve Surly, I'd pass on them.
     
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  3. minnesotaryan

    minnesotaryan Initiate (0) Dec 27, 2010 Minnesota

    they make it seem deliberate, but if they had the option I am sure they would have it on tap.
     
  4. TheFlern

    TheFlern Initiate (0) May 9, 2009 Idaho

    I would assume purposely not carrying great beer automatically = unhip. Am I missing something here?
     
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  5. yamar68

    yamar68 Initiate (0) Apr 1, 2011 Minnesota

    ^This.

    It's also the case at a number of liquor stores... after all, it's just a "Minnesota novelty."
     
  6. deadbody

    deadbody Initiate (0) May 10, 2010 Minnesota
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    IIRC this has something to do with the "Surly Bill" that allowed breweries to open tap rooms. At the time of it's passage a few bars publicly pulled Surly from their lines as they didn't want to compete against them.
     
  7. TheFlern

    TheFlern Initiate (0) May 9, 2009 Idaho

    wow, the ultimate form of pettiness. "Boo hoo, we have to compete with a brewery that brews great beer? how unfair! lets hate on them for trying to make money."
     
  8. Steimie

    Steimie Maven (1,428) Jan 7, 2012 Michigan

    We went to Bachelor Farmer last weekend for dinner while in Minneapolis and they had Fulton but no Surly. I wasn't sure if this was due to them still being fairly new or if the whole "hipper than hip" vibe they were putting out was responsible.
     
  9. deadbody

    deadbody Initiate (0) May 10, 2010 Minnesota
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    Bachelor Farmer is pretty new, they may still be on the waiting list for Surly.
     
  10. Steimie

    Steimie Maven (1,428) Jan 7, 2012 Michigan

    Maybe. But you'd think the owners would have a little pull, given that they're the Governor's kids.
     
  11. minnesotaryan

    minnesotaryan Initiate (0) Dec 27, 2010 Minnesota

    I have heard a similar story about Fulton and their tap room.
     
  12. lakestclairgoose

    lakestclairgoose Initiate (0) Feb 10, 2008 Michigan

    as long as the hipsters locations in MSP carry PBR I will be AOK......
     
  13. deadbody

    deadbody Initiate (0) May 10, 2010 Minnesota
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    Any pull they have probably has more to do with the size of their wallets. And even then while it might get them up the list, Omar won't pull it from an account to give to them instead.
     
  14. deadbody

    deadbody Initiate (0) May 10, 2010 Minnesota
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    Wouldn't surprise me. IIRC Pracna on Main was the most public to pull their Surly lines, but they were still serving Fulton last I heard.
     
  15. Steimie

    Steimie Maven (1,428) Jan 7, 2012 Michigan

    I tend to think it has more to do with the hipster vibe put off by Bachelor Farmer and several other spots in MSP. I think the OP was right when he posited that this is some sort of hipster pushback.
     
  16. Pahn

    Pahn Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2009 New York

    hah, what a stupid thing to do. "they might go to the surly tap room... fuck it, i'll make sure they go to the tap room by not even serving surly here! haha!"

    plus i'm sure surly's going to have huge problems finding people to buy all their beer. always meaningful to boycott someone who's probably brewing at capacity and selling every bottle and keg they produce.
     
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  17. mjryan

    mjryan Pooh-Bah (1,571) Dec 22, 2007 Minnesota
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    Im curious as to how you got the impression that some "hip" bars in these towns choose not to cary Surly deliberately, maybe even because they view them as big, bad and arrogant?
     
  18. RKPStogie

    RKPStogie Initiate (0) Nov 4, 2011 Minnesota

    Actually, I've heard and experienced the same issues stated by the OP. Last time I was in the cities, I went to Ike's (not trying to bash Ike's, I love their food) and they didn't have Surly on tap. I was specifically told they have no plans to bring it back. I agree that this is probably due to the "Surly Bill." Rather immature in my opinion.

    Here in Rochester, Bender and Furious are on tap at most places. Even BW3s put it on tap last fall. Unfortunately, it was at the expense of Schell's. Why BW3s needs 10 taps of BMC crap and their respective "knock off" craft beers is beyond me. That's right Shock Top, I'm calling you and that mow hawk out...
     
  19. Steimie

    Steimie Maven (1,428) Jan 7, 2012 Michigan

    Is it so far fetched to believe that some place that serves "Toasts" as a sort of cutesy/ironic/hip dish would also find itself too cool for school when it comes to choosing beer?

    Also, the toasts were delicious. They would've been better with a Furious instead of a Sweet Child o' Vine, but they were still delicious.
     
  20. mjryan

    mjryan Pooh-Bah (1,571) Dec 22, 2007 Minnesota
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    I've only heard of two bars pulling a breweries product due to the "Surly Bill". One is Pracna, whose owner dumped Surly. The other I'm hesitant to name as I don't have definitive proof, although I heard it from what I consider a reliable source. Sure, it does seem petty on one hand, but if a bar loses even one customer to a brewery taproom I can understand their anger. Perhaps the attitude is, if you are going to operate a bar that directly competes with me, and draws customers away from me, then why in the world would I sell your products? That probably isn't the decision I would make, but I don't put food on my table and pay my mortgage by making money of off selling beer.
     
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