Proprietor's Bourbon County Brand Stout Expectations?

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  1. ChicagoNick

    ChicagoNick Savant (1,012) Nov 16, 2012 Illinois
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    "grab my arm. the other arm. MY other arm.... OK, now watch this, I'm just gonna break the wrist and walk away. Break the wrist. Walk away"

    Glad we cleared that up.
     
  2. Rish907

    Rish907 Initiate (0) Jun 14, 2013 California

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    well said.. Couldn't agree more!
     
  3. LiquidAmber

    LiquidAmber Grand Pooh-Bah (5,734) Feb 20, 2009 Washington
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    Why would I have expectations about a beer I will never see in my entire life?
     
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  4. PsilohsaiBiN

    PsilohsaiBiN Maven (1,473) Aug 10, 2010 New York

    If you don't like "luscious berry flavors", then why the hell did you buy Backyard Rye in the first place?
     
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  5. RangnaR

    RangnaR Initiate (0) Dec 17, 2012 California

    You misunderstand my point. I would want to age it in the hopes of the sweetness dying down a tad, but WOULDN'T want to age it because then I'd lose those berry flavors that I DID ENJOY...
     
  6. hey5hitgoose

    hey5hitgoose Pundit (754) Feb 28, 2013 Illinois
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    i agree with almost all of this. one thing that i got over after the first few years of hoarding beer was the whole aging thing...well, for stouts. All it does for me is bring out licorice and raisin flavors (see dark lord especially). I wound up buying 6 and traded for several more props this year and have drank them all except two (and sent a couple away to people) in hopes to keep the memory of dat coconut alive. I always figure if it turns into that big of a deal later down the road, then ill just trade for it again. after all...it is just beer
     
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  7. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    While I can certainly appreciate the truth in this dynamic, the "rare" in beer is at its peak before anyone's had it. :wink:
     
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  8. drmcleod10

    drmcleod10 Initiate (0) Oct 14, 2013 Missouri


    Awesome post. Coffee is my favorite and compared a 2010 to fresh 2013. Fresh won by a landslide. The complexity and flavors that they put in do fade. The coffee was weak in the 2010 so was the heat.

    I would have to say the same about BCBS as well fresh vs. 1 year.
     
  9. beerborn

    beerborn Initiate (0) Jan 22, 2012 Louisiana

    This thread in my opinion is a strange hybrid between intelligent BA posts and the ramblings of mundane common folk who think that their IQ level is undoubtedly superior to everyone else's in the beer enjoyment industry.

    Lets now argue about what is "age" and the proper cellar temp. Because my bottle (yet to be drank) may very well be 'over the hill' and could be a substantial loss to my beer education.
     
  10. kdb150

    kdb150 Initiate (0) Mar 8, 2012 Pennsylvania

    No. If you buy a beer specifically for an adjunct flavor, and the adjunct flavor disappears with age, the beer is objectively worse for the missing flavor. It might be perfectly drinkable; the base beer may have even improved. But all I know is that if I open a bottle of Bourbon County Brand COFFEE Stout (emphasis added), and there is no coffee flavor, than I had a bad bottle of that beer. Period. There is no Coffee Stout without the coffee; the fact that what IS there is delightful pretty much misses the point entirely.
     
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  11. Jonnyhiggs

    Jonnyhiggs Initiate (0) Dec 7, 2012 Illinois

    I had some at the GI Black Friday release and thought Prop Rye was very sweet and a coconut bomb. A month later I had it and thought the coconut mellowed a little bit it and overall the beer improved and was much more enjoyable.

    I normally do not care for coconut so I was very skeptical but I became a big fan after tasting Prop Rye.

    IMO, it's amazing now so drink it ASAP but will be very good for another 2-3 years and dropping off 4-5 years.
     
  12. offthelevel_bytheplumb

    offthelevel_bytheplumb Maven (1,277) Aug 19, 2013 Illinois

    If you buy a beer for the adjunct flavor, then drinking the beer fresh is to your liking. In that case, aging a beer that will eliminate the adjunct that you want in the beer would be a waste of your time. If you look at what I've already covered in a past post...
    ... you can clearly see that aging the BCBCS for me would be much more to my liking.

    I know a guy I used to work with at a liquor store that ages IPAs. I don't like aged IPAs at all, they taste like cardboard to me. I would never say that IPAs do NOT age well just because I don't like them aged because that is just my opinion, and clearly someone likes IPAs with age. You (I will assume) and I would buy an IPA with the intent of smelling and tasting the fresh and juicy hops, and age would take that aspect away, so we wouldn't have any need to age them. If you don't want to age a BCBCS, then don't. I would never go out of my way to tell you that you're wrong because I assume that you would know what you prefer in the beer that you purchased with your money.

    By the way, about this...
    ... this statement is your opinion, not fact.
     
  13. bozodogbreath

    bozodogbreath Savant (1,128) Oct 19, 2006 Indiana
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    I have had the pleasure of drinking a Prop with a friend of mine. It was one of the finest beers I have ever had. I would not hold on to a bottle with the purpose of aging it. It is that good right now. Life is worth living now.
     
  14. roger617

    roger617 Initiate (0) Jun 1, 2013 Indiana

    If there's 1 thing I don't like about following all these forums, it's the building of hype behind said beer before I get a chance to try it. So when a thread is started to ask about expectations for possibly the most hyped beer of 2013, I hate that I have to read it :/

    To follow up reading through the forum and seeing everyone's positive and negative comments about a beer they may or may not have had, I go read all the recent reviews to see if the reviews are in line with all the (for the most part) far left or far right opinions.

    As a final check, I look through the drunken Untappd check ins where it's going to be a 5 or 1, ie you should be jealous I'm drinking this, or why did I try so hard to get this?

    After all of this thorough research, I have come to a consensus for my expectations for drinking a Proprietors, they are as follows:

    I will start by saying I am fortunate enough to have landed 2 through trade, only having to give away my soul, most of my pride, and my first born son. I will be opening the first of these 2 while watching my beloved Colts play against the Patriots as my way of cheering on and believing in Blue! With the christening of my first bottle, clearly I expect the Colts to win in blowout fashion, as I am essentially sacrificing half of my soul, half of most of my pride, and half of my first born son. Once this has come to fruition, I expect angels to ascend from above with fudge, Cheetos and Mountain Dew with a copy of Talledega Nights (because what's more exciting than Shake n' Bake). I will be massaged into everlasting bliss and never have to worry about a thing again.

    Until I realize I have to decide if the 2nd bottle of Prop should be drank or aged. The first experience will not be able to be topped, so why would I want to drink another bottle and be assuredly disappointed? But why would I want to age it and possibly never again realize this feeling of eternal happiness? The indecisiveness will without a doubt begin to drive me crazy beyond imagineable belief. Before I even know what happened I will wind up needing therapy to cope with the lost mind that was never supposed to be. And from this point it just goes downhill until I end up single, homeless, and broke.

    That's the life I expect to begin this coming weekend.
    Cheers!
    Roger
     
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  15. bobhits

    bobhits Maven (1,498) Oct 31, 2006 Ohio

    2 year old BCS is better than any fresh coffee version....and most think bombers age better than 12 oz bottles. But I'm biased and got no coffee this year or bottles this year, just had it on draft. Ok I'm gonna go be depressed and shit :slight_frown:
     
  16. Chris_H_2

    Chris_H_2 Pundit (995) Jan 3, 2013 Illinois
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    Thought I'd revisit this thread to see how the Proprietor's is tasting with a little time. Anyone have any reactions after drinking them fresh vs. 5 months of sitting on them?
     
  17. Jonnyhiggs

    Jonnyhiggs Initiate (0) Dec 7, 2012 Illinois

    It's still effen amazing!
     
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  18. tcblack4d

    tcblack4d Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2012 Georgia

    Def agree. Had it last night, and it was just as delicious as it was when I had it in December.
     
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  19. fehrminator

    fehrminator Maven (1,301) Jan 26, 2008 North Carolina
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    I was underwhelmed. I opened one with my tasting group this past weekend and the coconut was very subdued. Not a bad beer by any stretch but the current rating is overinflated IMO. I'd take fresh BCBCS over it straight up. Now the Funky Buddha maple bacon coffee porter that we opened? THAT was a wow beer.
     
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  20. marleyr

    marleyr Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2014 South Carolina

    I have a bottle of Westbrook Apple Brandy Barrel-Aged Siberian Black Magic Panther. If anybody wants to trade their bottle of Prop, shoot me a message. Thanks!
     
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