Beer and Fasting

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by glass_house, Mar 27, 2014.

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  1. 77black_ships

    77black_ships Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2012 Belgium

    As was “Aecht Schlenkerla Fastenbier” which I sadly have had only once because that beer is spectacular.
     
  2. RockAZ

    RockAZ Pundit (983) Jan 6, 2009 Arizona

    What was that Buffet song? Cheeseburger in Paradise?
    "Tried to amend my carnivorous habits.
    Made it nearly seventy days,
    Losin' weight with speed, eatin' sunflower seeds,
    Drinkin' lots of beer and soakin' up rays."


    Yeah, some really crazy things roll through your head not eating with diet pills and strong beer, I do not recommend this course. But for me, just seeing 12 pounds drop despite a week of weird psychotic dreams, both awake and asleep, got me going in the right direction.
     
  3. glass_house

    glass_house Maven (1,325) Jan 10, 2014 Ohio

    All I can picture is Jared Leto's mom in Requiem For A Dream. FEED ME SARAH. Very disturbing (but great) movie about addiction for anyone who hasn't seen it. Glad you were able to transition to a healthier regiment.
     
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  4. ONovoMexicano

    ONovoMexicano Initiate (0) Jun 14, 2012 New Mexico

    I was about to like this comment, but I'm not sure a like is appropriate. Hehe. This sounds like insanity.
     
  5. SerialTicker

    SerialTicker Pooh-Bah (2,851) Jun 18, 2012 Missouri
    Pooh-Bah

    There's nothing quite like a empty stomach buzz.
     
  6. RockAZ

    RockAZ Pundit (983) Jan 6, 2009 Arizona

    Two of the beers I had on hand for that lost week were http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/436/1496/
    and http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/436/7864/

    The first three days I went through about 12 bottles at least a day, not too sure on the rest of the days but it was less. I think. Started drinking more water until I felt full. Yeah, yeah, 1st World problems of having too much tasty food to eat got me in that condition, but I wondered afterwards if the alcohol only diet might have shrunk my stomach because now it doesn't take nearly as much to feel "full", and part of the healthier regiment is to simply stop eating when your stomach gives you that signal.

    Why did the monks fast? Why did the shaman go out into the desert or on top of the mountain? I attest that any of these actions are better with beer.
     
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  7. RockAZ

    RockAZ Pundit (983) Jan 6, 2009 Arizona

    For those who feel I misquoted the JB song -
    You sing Parrothead songs your way, and I will sing them mine. In the morning when the sun is rising on the beach and all the tequila is gone, we will see whose new tattoo has spelling errors,....
     
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  8. Crusader

    Crusader Pooh-Bah (1,725) Feb 4, 2011 Sweden
    Pooh-Bah

    In a yearly publication published by the Swedish chemist association from 1897 they have a chapter on the beer industry in Sweden at the time. Contained in the article is a table with average specs for various types of beer that were being brewed at the time.
    Top fermented beers:
    Porter
    ABV: 7.65
    Wort strenght: 18.52
    Degree of attenuation: 61.2

    Svensköl (the older Swedish beer, made with smoke dried malt)
    ABV: 3.13
    Wort strenght: 12.26
    Degree of attenuation: 39.6

    Fatsvagdricka (low-abv beer which was made with first runnings)
    ABV: 1.33
    Wort strenght: 4.96
    Degree of attenuation: 43.0

    Bottom fermented beers:

    Bavarian lager beer
    ABV: 5.35
    Wort strenght: 13.92
    Degree of attenuation: 58.3

    Pilsner beer
    ABV: 4.72
    Wort strenght: 11.92
    Degree of attenuation: 60.1

    Iskällar och lager dricka (dricka denotes a lower abv beer, both of which are bottom fermented and lagered cold)
    ABV: 3.28
    Wort strenght: 8.47
    Degree of attenuation: 60.5

    A few things of note:
    • The average degree of attenuation of the older Swedish style of beer, svensköl, was merely 39.6%
    • Swedish brewed porter had a degree of attenuation equal to pilsner beers.
    • A marked increase in the average abv among the new types of beer (porter, lager and pilsner) compared with the old style
    • The increased degree of attenuation among lager and porter pales in comparison with modern brewing standards, where 75-80% attenuation is normal and commonplace
    • Swedish beer legislation was based on the assumption of an average degree of attenuation of 60% for lager and pilsner beers as late as the 1930s
     
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  9. Rekrule

    Rekrule Initiate (0) Nov 11, 2011 Massachusetts

    Carbohydrates and alcohol.
     
  10. KS1297

    KS1297 Initiate (0) Apr 14, 2013 Wisconsin

    So are you allowed to have an orange slice with your blue moon?
     
  11. kzoobrew

    kzoobrew Initiate (0) May 8, 2006 Michigan

    But alcohol is not a macronutrient.
     
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  12. Rekrule

    Rekrule Initiate (0) Nov 11, 2011 Massachusetts

    It certainly is. Most people call it a carbohydrate which is fine for simplicity but not correct. There are people who don't consider it a macro because you don't need it to survive, but that doesn't get in carb's way so it's a fools argument. Alcohol is treated differently by the body (There is no store for it in the body and it's oxidation is perfect) it also has 7 calories per gram as opposed to normal carbohydrate's 4.
     
  13. kzoobrew

    kzoobrew Initiate (0) May 8, 2006 Michigan

    Alcohol is not needed for survival, this would exclude it from being labeled as a macronutrient by most definitions. Even if it may technically be a macronutrient there is little relevance to its inclusion in almost and discussion of macronutrients.
     
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  14. Rekrule

    Rekrule Initiate (0) Nov 11, 2011 Massachusetts

    Except maybe in a place where people get a fair percentage of their total calories from it. You know, places like this thread and this forum.
     
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  15. DougC123

    DougC123 Savant (1,186) Aug 21, 2012 Connecticut

    Well there was this one time....oh wait, you said beer and fasting? I thought you beer and fisting. Never mind.
     
  16. kzoobrew

    kzoobrew Initiate (0) May 8, 2006 Michigan

    While that may be a point worth making, there is only a small percentage of people on this site and forum who are concerned with macronutrients, especially to this extent. I would dare to say that the amount of those people who would consider alcohol as a marconutrient would be very insignificant. People may be concerned about how alcohol is metabolized, to a small extent, but I am not sure anyone, outside of yourself, is concerned with discussing it as a macronutrient.
     
  17. Roguer

    Roguer Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,811) Mar 25, 2013 Connecticut
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    I'd love to do it, but I'd have to work it around a vacation schedule or something. I've always been fascinated with the beer fasting periods of monks. After reading the article, though, I'm not sure I want to try it, even for just two or three days.

    Still very interesting.
     
  18. Rekrule

    Rekrule Initiate (0) Nov 11, 2011 Massachusetts

    You must be tons of fun. My conversation is irrelevant to this website. Got it. If you want to get hung up on semantics and usage of a single word, be my guest. It doesn't change the spirit behind the post I made. Cheers.
     
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  19. VDODSON

    VDODSON Initiate (0) Feb 5, 2013 North Dakota

    What's the point??
     
  20. Kword55

    Kword55 Initiate (0) Aug 1, 2013 New Jersey

    I can't say that I've ever done a Beer Fast but I did a 3 day juice cleanse two weeks ago and I actually felt terrible....I broke the fast with a salad and a Heady Topper and I instantly felt better! My motto has always been MODERATION and I feel that this experience just reiterates that.
     
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