Minneapolis Water Profile

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  1. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    I finally got the info I asked for from Minneapolis Water! I compiled these two excel sheets from the data, and all numbers have been rounded. If information was missing from the original info, it is listed as "n/a". Total alkalinity was listed as CaCO3, and I have included HCO3 which I calculated using Bru'n Water's calculator, using the average pH for each month.

    Anyway, basically this is almost two complete years worth of data, broken down by month. This should give you some idea of the seasonal variations, and you can augment your water profile accordingly.


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    I'm also including a link to the Excel file, so you can augment it as you see fit:

    2012-2013 Minneapolis Water Profile
     
  2. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
    Pooh-Bah

    Pretty good water.
     
  3. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    I can't complain too much...wish they'd ditch the Chloramine though.
     
  4. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
    Pooh-Bah

    Camden tablets are cheap and effective in removing that.
     
  5. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    Aye, and I use them for that purpose. It would just be nice not to have to.
     
  6. jae

    jae Initiate (0) Feb 21, 2010 Washington

    I used straight Mpls water when I was there several years ago.
     
  7. bwiechmann

    bwiechmann Zealot (748) Nov 30, 2009 Minnesota
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    I suppose this report would be mightily similar to that of immediately surrounding suburbs? Like say Robbinsdale or Crystal?
     
  8. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    If Robbinsdale or Crystal use Minneapolis Municipal water, then it absolutely should. I assume they do, but I don't know for certain.
     
  9. bwiechmann

    bwiechmann Zealot (748) Nov 30, 2009 Minnesota
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    I just moved to Crystal and haven't brewed in the new house yet. I just learned that Golden Valley, Robbinsdale, and Crystal all purchase their water from Minneapolis so these charts are super valuable. Thanks so much for posting them!
     
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  10. jono0101

    jono0101 Initiate (0) Aug 1, 2011 Missouri

    This is a topic that really interests me, I just haven't gotten around to being able to learn about it in depth yet. I think we have pretty decent water here in St. Charles, MO, but would someone that actually knows about it mind taking a look and letting me know if there are any glaring issues that I should look in to correcting until I am actually able to really sit down and educate myself more on the subject? Here is the link to my city's water report from 2012. http://www.stcharlescitymo.gov/Portals/0/Public Works/2012 annual water quality report.pdf I guess they have't uploaded the one from last year yet.
     
  11. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    That appears to be some pretty decent water, I mean there are no glaring issues that I can see. Some styles may require you to cut with RO/Distilled.

    The problem with that report is that they're reporting everything as MG/L, which means some will need to be converted to PPM, before it's useable with water calculators. The other issue with that report is that it only reports the highest value, which isn't particularly helpful...other than showing that you should expect those numbers to be lower than reported.

    I did find this:

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    http://www.brewersfriend.com/homebrew/water-profiles/
     
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  12. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    For practical purposes, mg/l = ppm.
     
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  13. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    Yeah, fair enough.
     
  14. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    unit analysis...the way to go :slight_smile:
     
  15. od_sf

    od_sf Initiate (0) Nov 2, 2010 California

    I know next to nothing about water chemistry and treatment for brewing, need to get the book. All I know is that San Francisco water (from Hetch Hetchy Valley in Yosemite National Park) is supposed to be excellent. Anchor Brewing is 4 blocks from my house and they use municipal water, and don't treat it, which is a good sign. Which local agency do I contact to get a report?
     
  16. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada


    Anchor's beers have been slipping (IMHO), but I don't think it has anything to do with the water.
     
  17. od_sf

    od_sf Initiate (0) Nov 2, 2010 California

    Definitely don't try their new saison, it is awful. But yes, any slippage wouldn't be due to the water, they've been brewing at the same facility with the same water for a long, long time.
     
  18. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    For me, I just called the number on the Minneapolis Municipal Water website. They directed me to one of the three water chemists they have on staff.
     
  19. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
    Pooh-Bah

    I don't know if you got lucky or I got unlucky. When I asked the municipal supplier at my old place, I got a run-around that eventually led me to someone whose final answer was essentially that they provide the minimum information required by the EPA, which doesn't include all the important brewing analytes.
     
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