"8 Beers That You Should Stop Drinking Immediately"

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  1. spaceman24

    spaceman24 Initiate (0) Oct 7, 2008 Texas

    So if a beer is brewed to the adjunct style, then there are no adjuncts?
     
  2. Ohiolager

    Ohiolager Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2014 Ohio

    I know its a tricky conversation. but yes. if a beer says " I am adjunct, drink me" then yes. but i tend to believe that brewers like to hide the fact that their brew is adjunct. The adjunct term doesn't really apply to craft brews, and the thousands of styles brewed. for example. Lagunitas sucks is a cereal medley, that is dry hopped. Is it adjunct, yes and no. Hard to explain. but remember the purity law is from 1516 when craft brews and new concepts did not even cross mot peoples minds.
     
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  3. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    The word "adjunct" is a brewing term which has nothing to do with the style of beer.It originally and strictly referred to unmalted grains added to the mash. These grains utilised the excess enzymes from the malt to convert them and extract their fermentable sugars.More recently adjunct has been taken to mean any non-malt substance added for its fermentable sugars.So unmalted barley , rice, corn , oats and even sugar are all generally regarded as adjuncts. Things like spices, coffee, fruit etc are additives or simply added ingredients and in any case aren't normally added to the mash.Hops of course offer no sugars and aren't adjuncts.
    Adjuncts of course can find themselves added intrinsically in the form of under modified malts which are a mixture of malted and unmalted grains.

    As I mentioned eabove, an adjunct is simply what it is, regardless of what's being brewed.It applies equally to so-called "craft" as it does to macro brewing.And to repeat myself, Heineken for example uses no adjuncts which goes to prove that "all malt" doesn't equal tasty beer.
    The Reinheitsgebot never was a Purity Law, it originated as a trade protection measure to ensure that bakers did not go short of wheat because the brewers were using it.The 1516 form allowed adjuncts as it didn't mention malt, only barley.
    But in 1516 all beer was craft beer! And are you trying to say that "new concepts" only existed recently? Brewing has always been a hotbed of experimentation, most of what's happening now is rediscovery and/or fiddling with details.
     
  4. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Aw, you were correct up until:
    Within the brewing industry, an adjunct is a fermentable ingredient that replaces a portion of the barley malt. Chocolate and spices are flavoring ingredients.
    Well, cereal grains are used in the brewing industry as adjuncts, and Budweiser is brewed using rice (no corn), but it is not in itself an "adjunct" - it is brewed with an adjunct. When people call such beers "adjunct light lagers" or similar, it is understood they mean "adjunct [brewed]".

    Really? The Budweiser label has long proclaimed their use of "Choicest Hops, Rice and Best Barley Malt", and many other adjunct-brewed light lager labels in the US have often noted their use of "corn" or "selected grains" "cereal grains", etc. Coors used to boast of its contracted rice farms in California, Schlitz advertised on how they brewed with either corn or rice depending on market conditions, Pabst once bragged about being one of the few brewers who milled their own corn (and today is even one of the few that admits to using corn syrup on their website), Rolling Rock's label famously noted their use of both corn and rice, etc.
     
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  5. spaceman24

    spaceman24 Initiate (0) Oct 7, 2008 Texas

    I was being facetious. I find it fascinating that it could be argued that brewing an AAL means there are no adjuncts used.

    Anyway, some of you think about this stuff way too much. Unless you are in the industry, in which case I am glad you do such thinking. I just drink the shit and try not to think too much. Dangerous stuff, thinking.
     
  6. Ohiolager

    Ohiolager Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2014 Ohio

    I agree that bud does say they use rice on the label. But on that same label they claim no other beer costs as much to brew. How can this be if they use corn, and or rice(GMO's) that should make it cheap. especially since A-B is the largest rice purchaser in the U.S. I was not aware that those brewers boasted they brewed with adjuncts. It's just that bud tastes like rice and nothing else. Bud light taste like corn. At least with miller lite i do taste some hops
     
  7. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    Rice is no cheaper than barley, particularly if domestic barley malt is used. It does give a higher extract though and allows brewers to use lower grades of barley.
     
  8. mjshearer1

    mjshearer1 Initiate (0) Dec 16, 2011 Michigan

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  9. mschofield

    mschofield Pooh-Bah (1,871) Oct 16, 2002 Massachusetts
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    Apples contain apple seeds, and apple seeds contain cyanide, so don't drink cider

    That statement qualifies as a peer reviewed study for the site that published "8 beers to stop drinking immediately"
     
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